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re: Most dominant players at their postion in Georgia history
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:02 am to meansonny
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:02 am to meansonny
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We designed the 2017 defense around Roquan. Essentially, we fed him. And he ate well.
Since then, we haven't "fed" anyone.
to play devil's advocate, it's a lot easier to not single out your MLB as the main guy when you have jordan davis, devonte wyatt, jalen carter, and travon walker as the DL as opposed to trent thompson, john atkins, and daquan hawkins. Not hating on those guys at all, just saying we kinda needed roquan to step up adn be more of a do-everythign guy whereas nakobe had a video game lineup in front of him so he wasn't forced to do as much.
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:22 am to WG_Dawg
That's a fair point.
But Kobe was never the finisher that Ro was.
Roquan could run full sprint to the sideline and cut on a dime to deliver a powerful blow. The extra yard or two that he saved time and time again literally won games for us.
Kobe was running pursuit and rugby tackling guys.
The tackle was executed 99% of the time. But it didn't have the stopping power for yardage like Roquan.
There is a huge difference between the 2. In college and in the pros.
Just because a guy is your best player does not mean that he can clean up everything like superman.
Our defenses in the past were designed to highlight Rennie Curran, too. Just because a guy is needed at that time does not make him "the guy" who is capable of cleaning everything up at or near the line of scrimmage.
But Kobe was never the finisher that Ro was.
Roquan could run full sprint to the sideline and cut on a dime to deliver a powerful blow. The extra yard or two that he saved time and time again literally won games for us.
Kobe was running pursuit and rugby tackling guys.
The tackle was executed 99% of the time. But it didn't have the stopping power for yardage like Roquan.
There is a huge difference between the 2. In college and in the pros.
Just because a guy is your best player does not mean that he can clean up everything like superman.
Our defenses in the past were designed to highlight Rennie Curran, too. Just because a guy is needed at that time does not make him "the guy" who is capable of cleaning everything up at or near the line of scrimmage.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:28 am to WG_Dawg
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Not hating on those guys at all, just saying we kinda needed roquan to step up adn be more of a do-everythign guy whereas nakobe had a video game lineup in front of him so he wasn't forced to do as much.
doesnt that just make what roquan did more impressive, though?
ill take it a step further and say that if you replace roquan smith with nakobe dean in 2017, we do not win the rose bowl. is that fair or the only factor? no, but it's true.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 9:30 am
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:29 am to meansonny
Hot rod was always fun to watch
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:54 am to RD Dawg
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Pollack and Butler
I probably should've thrown Butler on there. Herschel, Bowers and Butler are the only ones at the top of the conversation for best ever at their position in college football.
Pollack and Champ Bailey would probably lead Tier 2.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 9:57 am
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:55 am to deeprig9
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Roquan Smith
Roquan was the man and he's on the Mount Rushmore of Georgia defense, but I dont know how many people say that Roquan was the best linebacker in college football history.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:37 am to WG_Dawg
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I'm not sure I'd agree on that. Pollack never stood up pre snap and alwasy had his hand in the dirt matched up against an OT or TE. Jarvis would occasionally line up outside the DE, but was almost always standing up several yards off the LOS. He'd rush the passer (very well) or play coverage, while Pollack was almost always clogging lanes or getting after the passer (also quite well).
I wouldn't really say their positions or duties were all that similar. But yes, both very dominant.
I'm not sure MeanSonny is old enough to remember all of that. Pollack was never a stand up linebacker.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:39 am to Violent Hip Swivel
I'm pretty sure I called him a 4-3 defensive end.
Was there an autocorrect on my post?
Was there an autocorrect on my post?
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:47 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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Pollack was never a stand up linebacker.
And just to make sure you are honest, Pollack would take a 2 point stance (as a DE) when a tight end lined up attached on his side.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 2:33 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
The Mt. Rushmore is probably Herschel, Pollack, Champ, Roquan.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 2:38 pm to RedPants
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The Mt. Rushmore is probably Herschel, Pollack, Champ, Roquan.
If you're talkign about the Mt Rushmore of the title of OP (most dominant at position), I don't see how you can't put Brock on there. I mean Brock and Herschel would probably be co-#1s in that regard considering Brock could make an extremely compelling case to be the best TE in CFB history.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 3:17 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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Roquan was the man and he's on the Mount Rushmore of Georgia defense, but I dont know how many people say that Roquan was the best linebacker in college football history.
The OP said Georgia history, not college football history.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:42 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
Some forgotten names...
Max Jean Gilles - Big (350 lbs) and strong even by today's standards. All-SEC and All-American.
Steve Roberts - Some won't remember this Olinemen from the 90s, but he was a 4 year starter and 2 x All-SEC.
Rennie Curran at LB was, pound-for-pound one of the best.
Brannan Southerland at fullback, the "Scottish Warrior" was a beast. I often wonder where he'd start today since there are no more FBs anymore.
Max Jean Gilles - Big (350 lbs) and strong even by today's standards. All-SEC and All-American.
Steve Roberts - Some won't remember this Olinemen from the 90s, but he was a 4 year starter and 2 x All-SEC.
Rennie Curran at LB was, pound-for-pound one of the best.
Brannan Southerland at fullback, the "Scottish Warrior" was a beast. I often wonder where he'd start today since there are no more FBs anymore.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:48 pm to Darindawg
Richard Seymour?
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:03 pm to meansonny
I thought about Seymour and Champ at the same time and then couldn’t decide if I would take Seymour over Carter in college.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:10 pm to DawgHolliday
I think Seymour and Carter are both pretty comparable leaving college.
My head says that Seymour had the better college career (developed earlier).
My head says that Seymour had the better college career (developed earlier).
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:08 am to Violent Hip Swivel
Thomas Davis and Greg Blue
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:23 am to AlaCowboy
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Stetson Bennett. 2 NCs says it all.
I got 5 downvotes so far. I guess the Stetson haters are still around.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:33 am to AlaCowboy
I didn't down vote you, but I will point out that "2 NCs says it all" is kind of irrelevant to the topic. By that logic, Buck Belue is one of the 3 most dominant QBs UGA has ever had but that'd be laughable to suggest.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:36 am to AlaCowboy
The topic is “Most dominant players at their position in Georgia history”.
Stetson does not fall into that category though he was very good 2021-2022.
Stetson does not fall into that category though he was very good 2021-2022.
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