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re: Maybe Smart wasn't ready for a head coaching job

Posted on 11/4/16 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by DamnGoodDawg11
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
112 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 1:08 pm to
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Wow, yet another "insider" who's "in the know" Cannot wait for his "insider updates"


I wouldn't say insider. I would say he is the inside. I'm not bragging, just saying.. Trust me that he is a valid source.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 1:28 pm to
Has he ever been inside of you ?
Posted by DamnGoodDawg11
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
112 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 2:15 pm to
Tee'd that one up
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39390 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 2:21 pm to
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Trust me that he is a valid source.


I bet many insiders say this about every recruit. Sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 2:33 pm to
Glad you are a good sport. Have fun here.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7588 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 2:54 pm to
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Make it where?


Here. I think that, at some point over the next two years, Fromm becomes the starter. I think Fromm will show obviously superior poise, athleticism and accuracy.
Posted by DamnGoodDawg11
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
112 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 3:10 pm to
^

Eason has a rocket for an arm, and obviously I want him to excel. But I am simply worried (from what I have seen. I know he is a freshman) that maybe the reason he was putting up Madden-like numbers in Seattle was because he was 3 feet taller than his left tackle. Maybe he needs a season to get into his groove.

I hope that Fromm competition will boost our play. Let's face it.. Ramsey was never going to start. The offseason QB competition was simply to see if Jacob could learn just enough to start. We were going to make him the starter the whole time IMO.

[Insert '06 Stafford stats here]
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61362 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 3:27 pm to
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obviously superior poise

I doubt that

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athleticism

Maybe

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accuracy.

It's possible. I am a little disappointed with the accuracy. I think Eason is just a little nervous back there. I realize to a certain extent that speaks to poise, but on too many occasions when the game has been on the line, Eason has taken control and made plays. That, for me, speaks more to poise.

I agree, that Fromm looks to be a special talent. But I doubt he comes in and starts over Eason. he will, probably, red shirt his first year, then hold a clipboard him red shirt freshman year, then start his sophomore year. Just guessing, of course.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61362 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 3:29 pm to
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maybe the reason he was putting up Madden-like numbers in Seattle was because he was 3 feet taller than his left tackle.


That and they don't play the same brand of football we do in the southeast. However, in camps he did well against superior talent, so I think he will be fine.

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I hope that Fromm competition will boost our play.

Me and you both.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28092 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 7:37 pm to
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And Lambert is, well, Lambert.


Wow,spirited defense! Still doesn't address the fact he was a 4 star QB playing
in highly competative region in Ga and was also offered by Bama amongst others,

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Ramsey ran the triple option at Camden and started playing football in middle school


So what?He was still offered by every major SEC school after summer camps and 7 on 7's and he wasn't offered on his ability to run the Wing-T

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39390 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 7:43 pm to
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Here. I think that, at some point over the next two years, Fromm becomes the starter. I think Fromm will show obviously superior poise, athleticism and accuracy.


I think Fromm backs up Eason until Eason leaves UGA for the NFL.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72911 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 8:03 pm to
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I think Fromm backs up Eason until Eason leaves UGA for the NFL.


Agree. Then Justin Fields takes over.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14403 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 9:25 pm to
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quote:Here. I think that, at some point over the next two years, Fromm becomes the starter. I think Fromm will show obviously superior poise, athleticism and accuracy. I think Fromm backs up Eason until Eason leaves UGA for the NFL.


That would be my guess. Eason has NFL size and arm strength. He just needs good blocking and equally talented receivers to get our offense rolling.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5941 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 12:44 am to
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he was a 4 star QB playing in highly competative region in Ga and was also offered by Bama amongst others,


And I'm sure Saban cries himself to sleep every night over losing out on the Lambert sweepstakes.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28092 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 4:18 am to
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And I'm sure Saban cries himself to sleep every night over losing out on the Lambert sweepstake


Not even close to the point...just comparing HS backgrounds between both QBs
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 7:32 am to
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That would be my guess. Eason has NFL size and arm strength. He just needs good blocking and equally talented receivers to get our offense rolling.


There are SEC teams that would take our top 5 lineman and WRs in a heartbeat. They may not all start, but they would take them. We just are not getting the best out of them. It's that simple really.
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
6127 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 8:05 am to
As far as the oline goes...Sam Pittman is regarded as one of the best oline coaches in college football. So are you trying to tell me that he can't coach these guys up? If not then the guy is simply a good recruiter and it makes him look better on the field.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 8:26 am to
That is one that I don't get. If they players can't execute your complex system, then as a coach, you gotta adjust your scheme to your talent. They just haven't done that and it makes no sense to me.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14403 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 8:35 am to
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They may not all start, but they would take them.


It's reassuring to know that our starters would be backups on said SEC teams.

Look, Peter, we get it. You think that most of the issues with our current team are related to coaching. But any honest assessment recognizes that the performance of any team is a combination of coaching and the talent of the individual players. Yes, this is Kirby's first year as a HC and no doubt he has much to learn about being a HC in his first season. But he was an assistant HC and one of the best DC's in the nation for 7 years under Saban who is arguably the best college HC in the nation. Smart also surrounded himself with experienced assistants with Chaney as OC, Pittman as the OL coach and Mel Tucker as the DC. Pittman in particular was highly successful at Arkansas: LINK

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Pittman, who is universally considered one of the nation’s best offensive line coaches and recruiters, spent three seasons at Arkansas.
From 2012-15, a Pittman-coached offensive line has led the SEC in fewest sacks allowed—three years at Arkansas and one at Tennessee. Arkansas allowed only 1.00 sacks per game in 2015, 1.08 in 2014, and 0.67 in 2013. In 2012, Pittman coached the Tennessee offensive line that led the SEC with just 0.67 sacks allowed per game.
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Bottom line: There is no reason to believe that our OL problems are almost entirely related to coaching.
This post was edited on 11/5/16 at 10:08 am
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 11:02 am to
I guess the difference here is I understand football and see what is happening out there and know scheme is a definite... significant issue in our woes and your assessment is based on pay recruiting service "rankings" of 17 year old boys.,, so, whatever works for you...
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