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re: Maybe Smart wasn't ready for a head coaching job

Posted on 11/3/16 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by Dawgman77
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 5:11 pm to
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Richt was usually in the top 10 in the nation recruiting wise, though, and had a year or two in the top 5.


There is no way that I know of to factor roster management into recruiting rankings and it is at least as important as the number of 4 and 5 stars you sign. Poor management led to us having poor QB play.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:58 pm to
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Richt was usually in the top 10 in the nation recruiting wise, though, and had a year or two in the top 5.


Not gonna go through 8 pages to see where dawgslife said this, but this is ignorant. When Richt had top 5 recruiting classes, he won the SEC.

When he didn't, he didn't.

Top Ten recruiting classes are great when you are in the MAC or PAC12.

In the SEC, when you are #8, that means 5 or 6 of your direct competitors recruited better than you.

This is the neighborhood we live in.

In case Dawgslife is too stupid to understand this, let me rephrase it...


Being #9 in recruiting rankings nationally means jack shite when you are #6 in the SEC.



Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:47 pm to
The 2013 class followed by the 2014 class was killer. That was more than 2 classes worth.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:54 pm to
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The 2013 class followed by the 2014 class was killer. That was more than 2 classes worth.


Not sure what you mean. Killer good or Killer bad?

Where were those two classes ranked among the SEC?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:18 pm to
'14 class was ranked 7th Bama,LSU and UT were higher
'15 class was 6th only UT and Bama were higher
'16 class was 11th AU,LSU,OM and Bama were higher (probably finish 8 or higher w/out change

Our cumulative rankings are probably 3rd in conference those 3 years.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14095 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:25 pm to
Being the 5th ranked SEC class, but top 10 overall still does not explain the state of the product on the field this year.... it just doesn't. If it makes some of y'all happier to blame Richt for it rather than the current staff, it's your choice... it's what you want to hear.... I hope recruiting season is exciting for you cause that's all we have to look forward to...

I said early in the season the Kirbs didn't have to coach this year... I caught a lot of hell...

This thread pretty much confirms what I said...
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:04 pm to
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you mean. Killer good or Killer bad?


Since he 13 class was so bad, the 14 class needed to be amazing and it wasn't.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 6:24 am to
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Not gonna go through 8 pages to see where dawgslife said this, but this is ignorant. When Richt had top 5 recruiting classes, he won the SEC.

When he didn't, he didn't.


It's obvious you didn't read what i said, so let me spell it out for you. I said that from a national standpoint, Richt was considered a good recruiter. he typically had top 10 recruiting classes and even had a top 5 once or twice. So, you think that statement is ignorant? You are way out there. Mind explaining why it was an ignorant statement?

quote:

In the SEC, when you are #8, that means 5 or 6 of your direct competitors recruited better than you.



Which is why I plainly said "On a National level he was considered a good recruiter" and did not say he was considered a good recruiter from a SEC standpoint. Try reading before calling somebody ignorant. Getting on a message board and calling somebody ignorant while not having a clue about what was said is....ignorant. Seems to fit you.


Here is my direct quote:

Compared to the nation at large, he was, and he got good results when you compare him to the nation at large.

Which part of that was ignorant, now? I seem to be missing it. You need to read and stop doing knee jerk posts without knowing what you are talking about.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 6:32 am to
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Not gonna go through 8 pages to see where dawgslife said this, but this is ignorant. When Richt had top 5 recruiting classes, he won the SEC.



You are so full of crap it almost hurts. You aren't going to go through 8 pages to find my quote, yet you quote it? Then you take a small portion of my quote and leave the part out where I specifically said he recruited well from a national perspective? Do you even know what a national perspective means? Dude. And you call me stupid.

In case Deeprig is too stupid to understand this, let me rephrase it...

With 120 teams nationally top 10 recruiting classes would be considered good.
This post was edited on 11/4/16 at 7:26 am
Posted by DamnGoodDawg11
Ex-Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
116 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:47 am to
First time post. Glad to join the team..

Let me start by saying this. We are fine. Any time you are building an ENTIRELY NEW coaching staff, there are going to be plenty of speed bumps. And on top of that, you are supposed to expect 50+ kids to jump on board and have the same sort of admiration, respect, and loyalty that they had for their previous coaches. Our senior class has gone through hell in regards to coaching changes in recent years. What we need to do is f****** stick with a unit and stop demanding immediate perfection. I'm sick of being s*** on by other fans about our fan base, and I can't say it wasn't expected that the Georgia faithful would already being abandoning ship.

Has Chaney called some dumb plays? Absolutely. But its hard when your o-line plays softer that GISA high school teams, and your QB soars deep balls 15 feet over the head of the reciever.

Here are my two biggest concnerns with this years team: Leadership and QB

Leadership:

We have none. We have Kublanow, Chubb/Michel, and Sanders (who is a very quiet kid). And it is hard to play the leader when you aren't playing very good. Kublanow's been poor as of late, Chubb can't run anymore, and Michel had 2 yards last week. I want to see someone that gets us fired up for reasons other than to look cool when the camera pans over them. I want players to get these kids together, and have everyone buy into the system. That's where Kirby and his recruiting team will factor in. Look at Alabama nad tell me Kirby doesn't know what to look for. I would kill to have Eddie Jackson on our sideline.

QB:

Eason sucks. I said this during his recruitment and I was met by people who really don't know what they're looking at calling me a pessimist, anti-UGA, etc. (I'm not anti-UGA, I went there and f****** love the dawgs). The truth is that Eason was playing against shite talent from god damn Seattle. They were propbably holding hands during film sessions and braiding eachother's hair for all I know. We brought him down to throw deep balls and get our offense moving. I have seen him throw some pretty shite balls, and I can't say I didn't predict it. Maybe he's nervous, maybe it's windy, idk. But if you take out the deep ball, what's the difference between Lambert and Eason. I mean Lambert went 24-25 against USC last year throwing the same short to medium routes Eason throws.

Just some food for thought. Some I know who is very, very, very in-the-know says Fromm is the real deal. And he's already been playing against elite GA talent.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41286 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 11:01 am to
Eason has a ton of room for improvement but his potential remains elite. He has made some really clutch throws, and has had some costly drops by wr's and whiffs by blockers.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 11:07 am to
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and I can't say it wasn't expected that the Georgia faithful would already being abandoning ship.

Who's abandoning the ship?

quote:

Has Chaney called some dumb plays? Absolutely. But its hard when your o-line plays softer that GISA high school teams, and your QB soars deep balls 15 feet over the head of the reciever.


I am one of the few that thinks Chaney has done ok. He is limited in his play calling by a freshman QB, mainly, imo.
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Leadership:

We have none.


Actually nobody knows what we have unless we are in the dressing room. People hear rumors, but usually those are wrong.
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Eason sucks.

Seems like a harsh assessment for a Freshman QB. Does he have rough edges? Yes. Has he been inaccurate? At times. He has also shown a calmness in pressure situations. A strong arm (at times). He has a lot to work on, but I think we all expected that for a true freshman. To say he sucks, though? I disagree.

No problem with disagreeing. We all have our opinions. Welcome to the board. Gotta warn you, though, we already have a DGD on here. You are going to be confused with him.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28207 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 11:32 am to
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stop demanding immediate perfection


Who's doing that?

quote:

Eason was playing against shite talent from god damn Seattle. They were propbably holding hands during film sessions and braiding eachother's hair for all I know.


And the 2 guys he beat out were 4 star QB's playing against top,large classification schools in a talent rich state. Your point is useless.


quote:

Some I know who is very, very, very in-the-know says Fromm is the real deal


Wow, yet another "insider" who's "in the know"
Cannot wait for his "insider updates"

Who let this twit in?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 11:50 am to
quote:

stop demanding immediate perfection.

quote:

Eason sucks.


The irony.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14095 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 12:26 pm to
Ya, I think Eason will be good. Got thrown in a tough spot and did ok.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 12:49 pm to
I can't imagine getting out on the field at QB as a true freshman in the SEC.

He has some rough edges, but as a whole I have been pleased, though. He should be markedly better next year.
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 11/4/16 at 12:51 pm to
Welcome Mr. Insider.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7598 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 12:55 pm to
I don't think Eason is going to make it. Good college QBs must be either athletic or have a feel for movement in the pocket. Eason isn't quite there and his accuracy has been bad.

I'm sure that more experience and upgrading offensive talent will result in better performance but that might not be enough. We may discover that Fromm is the better option next year.
Posted by DamnGoodDawg11
Ex-Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
116 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 1:06 pm to
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And the 2 guys he beat out were 4 star QB's playing against top, large classification schools in a talent rich state.


Ramsey ran the triple option at Camden and started playing football in middle school. And Lambert is, well, Lambert.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41286 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 1:07 pm to
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I don't think Eason is going to make it.


Make it where?
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