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re: Maybe Smart wasn't ready for a head coaching job
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:21 am to Peter Buck
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:21 am to Peter Buck
the hell are you talking about
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:56 am to WG_Dawg
'Some' ex players were upset there was not a black HC candidate. There was also a lot of talk of us not recruiting or playing a black QB in a long time.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:59 am to Peter Buck
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'Some' ex players were upset there was not a black HC candidate. There was also a lot of talk of us not recruiting or playing a black QB in a long time.
glad they're ex players then, what an idiotic mindset.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 11:03 am to WG_Dawg
I'm not getting into the politics of it, but it isn't real and pervasive.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:48 pm to Peter Buck
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That aside, we aren't "having" to start grad transfers. They are in many cases a good bonus grab. Similar to a JUCO. One of our best Defensive players is one of those guys as well. Was that a bad move by Kirbs to take him?
You have nothing to say about the OL issues from 2006-2008? It was talked about. We signed one OL in 2005, and his best contribution was passing out in a bar while shitting himself. 2013 was a weak class at the time, and it looks awful now.
A transfer from Bama is very different than the 3 I listed, but we went after all of them due to recruiting misses at those positions. We failed to sign a competent QB from 2010-15. DB recruiting has led to a backfield of 3 stars. Very little top talent at WR as well. Check this crap recruiting rankings from 2013-15 out for our current OL:
109 Isaiah Wynn
185: Brandon Kublanow
213 Pat Allen
227 Dsyhon Sims
259 Kendall Baker
437 Sam Madden
450: DeVondre Seymour
453 Sage Hardin
525 Jake Edwards
537: Josh Cardiello
558 Aulden Bynum
Thats 11 signed. Zero top 100 guys isn't good, as is only 2 in the top 200, but the worst part is that OVER half are below 436. Thats a major fail, and we are feeling the pain today because of it.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 5:01 pm to djsdawg
WR 13-15 is horrendous as well:
28 Terry Godwin
119 Tramel Terry
245 Jayson Stanley
294 Shakenneth Williams
300 Jonathon Rumph
307 Isiah McKenzie
380 Michael Chigbu
390 Reggie Davis
418 Uriah Lemay
490 Rico Johnson
527 Shaquery Wilson
768 Gilbert Johnson
Thats 12 signed. 8 are 300 or below.
28 Terry Godwin
119 Tramel Terry
245 Jayson Stanley
294 Shakenneth Williams
300 Jonathon Rumph
307 Isiah McKenzie
380 Michael Chigbu
390 Reggie Davis
418 Uriah Lemay
490 Rico Johnson
527 Shaquery Wilson
768 Gilbert Johnson
Thats 12 signed. 8 are 300 or below.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 6:30 pm to djsdawg
And they play like their rankings. Maybe worse
Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:16 pm to GurleyGirl
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Maybe Smart wasn't ready for a head coaching job
Or maybe it takes more than half a season to develop as a HC.
You can't talk sense to those with no capacity to receive.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:21 pm to djsdawg
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109 Isaiah Wynn
185: Brandon Kublanow
213 Pat Allen
227 Dsyhon Sims
259 Kendall Baker
437 Sam Madden
450: DeVondre Seymour
453 Sage Hardin
525 Jake Edwards
537: Josh Cardiello
558 Aulden Bynum
Jesus,Holy Mother of God...So you actually there's someone competent to rank the 257th offensive linemen in recruiting?Jesus Christ,even you cannot be this stupid.
Oh,I forget you're the type who likes bright,shiny things and Mike Leach is a great
coach.
Do you actually think you're making any type of a point?
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:40 pm to RD Dawg
Those are overall rankings, not positional ones, and its a very good point that most everyone but you and maybe peter can understand and accept.
As for Mike Leach, his results at Texas Tech and Wazzu prove you wrong. Leave it to you to not see that.
As for Mike Leach, his results at Texas Tech and Wazzu prove you wrong. Leave it to you to not see that.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:49 pm to RD Dawg
The algorithms are proprietary but the rankings are driven by numbers. It's not really a beauty contest. The two ranking posts by djsdawg have a lot of meaning. Our receiver and Oline recruits have been relatively bad.
Someone more ambitious than me could compare those numbers to those of Bama recruits.
Someone more ambitious than me could compare those numbers to those of Bama recruits.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 11:21 pm to djsdawg
Thank you for sharing this. It goes a long ways toward explaining our weakness on the OL and at the receiver positions. Based on performance, most fans with insight have noticed it and I doubt if there is any professional sports analyst who thinks Georgia is strong at those positions.
Our historic recruiting ranks to some extent mask our ongoing weaknesses. Many SECrant posters consider UGA to be an underachievement champion and they are correct to some extent considering the wealth of talent in our state. But potential does not equal results and we have missed out on many key instate players over the years. They marvel at UGA having Stafford, Moreno and A.J. Green on the same team yet won nothing that year. The explanation then was the same as today in how we can look so bad with a 5 star QB, Eason, and outstanding RB's, Chubb and Michel: weakness in the trenches where it counts most.
Our historic recruiting ranks to some extent mask our ongoing weaknesses. Many SECrant posters consider UGA to be an underachievement champion and they are correct to some extent considering the wealth of talent in our state. But potential does not equal results and we have missed out on many key instate players over the years. They marvel at UGA having Stafford, Moreno and A.J. Green on the same team yet won nothing that year. The explanation then was the same as today in how we can look so bad with a 5 star QB, Eason, and outstanding RB's, Chubb and Michel: weakness in the trenches where it counts most.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 7:45 am
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:28 am to djsdawg
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Those are overall rankings, not positional ones, and its a very good point that most everyone but you and maybe peter can understand and accept.
So what?Its still idiotic to rank HS players into the 400's and 500's and
even more idiotic to buy into it.
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As for Mike Leach, his results at Texas Tech and Wazzu prove you wrong. Leave it to you to not see that.
I KNEW IT! So predicatable.I just took a guess with Mike Leach and you never fail to disappoint.
He just rolling in conference titles and bowl victories. _Go air raid! Its your favorite offense,right?
Posted on 11/3/16 at 6:38 am to Cobb Dawg
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Maybe Smart wasn't ready for a head coaching job
Or maybe it takes more than half a season to develop as a HC.
You can't talk sense to those with no capacity to receive.
Dude. You posted this just last week!
Chaney is a fat POSPosted on 10/29/16 at 10:42 pm
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who needs to go now. If Kirby doesn't fire him at the EOS, Kirby needs to go.

Posted on 11/3/16 at 6:47 am to Whiznot
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Someone more ambitious than me could compare those numbers to those of Bama recruits.
Here's my problem with this reasoning. When people say something about Saban in regards to Smart, people say that Saban is unique and it is not fair to compare Kirby to him......and I agree with this sentiment. but when we want to compare Richt's recruiting, we are going to compare them to Saban's...the greatest recruiter in the country?
Why don't we compare them to the teams that are beating us, or are playing us tightly this year? Florida, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, etc.
I realize we want to get where Alabama is, but lets not make a comparison to Saban off limits for one coach, but continue to compare another coach with Saban. The goal post moving boggles the mind. (Not necessarily you, Whiznot, just people on here in general)
Posted on 11/3/16 at 6:59 am to GurleyGirl
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Thank you for sharing this. It goes a long ways toward explaining our weakness on the OL
Yes and no.
It does not mention that when Richt took over in 2002
we recruited 6 OL,2003 7, so that indicates we were pretty wiped out of Ol when he arrived. There was definitely an imbalance that Richt inherited. Also, we signed 3 more in 2004, so by the 2005 class we had 16 OLinemen that were Freshmen, sophomores and Juniors. We only signed 17 in the entire class of 2005, so that is probably why we signed 1 OL. That gave us 17 OL on the roster.
You can't just look at a small sample of information. We all know that the OL took a back seat to skill positions, but to indicate that he did not recruit OL is wrong. When he came in we were short on OL and he fixed that. Maybe not with the quality we would have liked, but we needed bodies fast.
ETA
Just as a point of reference, Alabama has 20 OL on their roster this year and Ole Miss has 17.
ETA again
Just found the 2001 class recruited 4 OL, meaning from 2001 to 2004 we had 20 OL on the roster.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 7:25 am
Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:28 am to RD Dawg
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just took a guess with Mike Leach and you never fail to disappoint. He just rolling in conference titles and bowl victories. _Go air raid! Its your favorite offense,right?
For you to assert it's easy to win at Texas tech and wazzu shows a complete lack of knowledge of cfb.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:35 am to RD Dawg
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o what?Its still idiotic to rank HS players into the 400's and 500's and even more idiotic to buy into it.
There is a strong correlation in player rankings and the nfl draft. The higher rated you are, the better your chances at the nfl are.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:55 am to djsdawg
Mike Price and Dennis Erickson both had success at WSU...not easy but certainly not
impossible. What's kept him from winning big at Texas Tech? Baylor and TCU both
are comparable as far as access to recruits,facilities etc.
You demonstrate that on a daily bases especially if you think Leach is a "great coach"
impossible. What's kept him from winning big at Texas Tech? Baylor and TCU both
are comparable as far as access to recruits,facilities etc.
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complete lack of knowledge of cfb.
You demonstrate that on a daily bases especially if you think Leach is a "great coach"
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