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Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:33 pm to Wwarmouth
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:33 pm to Wwarmouth
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So no regime change, Iran can have missiles and enrich uranium....so what exactly was the point of this war? Why did 14 Americans need to die and inflation rise to post COVID levels?
Disaster class.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:09 pm to Wwarmouth
We aren't nation building anymore, so duplicitous to both hope for and whine about forever wars ....
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:25 pm to Wwarmouth
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Oh no RD!!
Muh sources!
Idiot
That isn't the deal that the US released.
Your sources suck if they aren't citing the MOU from the US Government.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:56 pm to meansonny
Meansonny! Welcome back brother.
Feel free to go through and pick out the differences
Thoughts on the deal? Was the 14 American lives worth it? You see Trump say Iran should be expected to have ballistic missiles?
Feel free to go through and pick out the differences
Thoughts on the deal? Was the 14 American lives worth it? You see Trump say Iran should be expected to have ballistic missiles?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:00 pm to Wwarmouth
No troops life is worth it but we have training accidents worse.... We destroyed their entire military, destroyed the complex they built nukes in and wiped out generations of their leadership.....
Only a pussy arse baby back bitch would let a nation yell Death to America for 50 years and get away with that and all the terrorist and ied attacks.
Only a pussy arse baby back bitch would let a nation yell Death to America for 50 years and get away with that and all the terrorist and ied attacks.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:04 pm to Wwarmouth
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Feel free to go through and pick out the differences
You mean... your source wasn't legit?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:18 pm to meansonny
I don't see any differences in it. Youre the one making the claim because you don't want to address the actual substance of the MOU
So either keep being a semantic pussy and post why your upset about the source or let's discuss the complete failure of this whole ordeal. We can start with going back to your previous posts if you like or you could give your opinion on the MOU and we could go from there.
For example, you were big on Iran not having ballistic missiles. Trump came out today and said they should be able to. What are your thoughts on his statement?
So either keep being a semantic pussy and post why your upset about the source or let's discuss the complete failure of this whole ordeal. We can start with going back to your previous posts if you like or you could give your opinion on the MOU and we could go from there.
For example, you were big on Iran not having ballistic missiles. Trump came out today and said they should be able to. What are your thoughts on his statement?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:20 pm to lewis and herschel
Their military appears fine. We couldn't even get warships in the strait because of their drones.
The ayotollahs son is now in charge....who is more hardline than his father...what generations are you talking about?
They are set up to be a world power with this deal. If you don't like Iran how could you endorse this?
Total cult like behavior. Embarrassing.
The ayotollahs son is now in charge....who is more hardline than his father...what generations are you talking about?
They are set up to be a world power with this deal. If you don't like Iran how could you endorse this?
Total cult like behavior. Embarrassing.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:21 pm to Wwarmouth
My thoughts are Carter did nothing and Obama gave them Billions of US tax dollars ... To say they aren't working on a nuke.... Meanwhile same Democrats now just say Iran lies about everything.....
Billions in military equipment destroyed, massive missile stores and factories gone... Their life blood oil was almost taken from them.... It's like winning a football game 70-0.
Billions in military equipment destroyed, massive missile stores and factories gone... Their life blood oil was almost taken from them.... It's like winning a football game 70-0.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:24 pm to lewis and herschel
And they are getting 100s of billions back, approval to have ballistic missiles, trump also said he was open to them enriching uranium...so again what was the point? How was this a win?
Just admit it is a terrible deal and a result from a catastrophic decision to start a war.
Just admit it is a terrible deal and a result from a catastrophic decision to start a war.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:59 pm to Wwarmouth
Always were... We haven't ever bombed a place and left it for dead..... besides Qatarlson is doing that side.... Trump asked Israel to let Syria handle homas and the hoothies ....
It worked. Threat gone.
It worked. Threat gone.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:33 pm to lewis and herschel
Please explain how there is no threat. Please.
Trump is giving them billions and the green light to stock ballistic missiles. If anything there is more of a threat.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:47 pm to Wwarmouth
Some dude in a garage making drones and 10s of thousand fewer rockets and missiles..... No air defense.. .
They frick up, we blow up a powerplant or a bridge.....
They frick up, we blow up a powerplant or a bridge.....
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:07 pm to lewis and herschel
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Only a pussy arse baby back bitch would let a nation yell Death to America for 50 years and get away with that and all the terrorist and ied attacks.
Amen!
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:10 pm to Wwarmouth
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So either keep being a semantic pussy and post why your upset about
Don’t use “semantic” in the same sentence you misuse “you’re.”
Thank you.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:23 pm to Wwarmouth
You could have made more money in your career had you not wasted your time posting on a message board during work hours while blaming your grandparents for your lack of discipline and just admitted you’re an antisemite in your first post.
Instead, you’ve chosen to make our eyes bleed while you bleed.
Instead, you’ve chosen to make our eyes bleed while you bleed.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:42 pm to SecGamer
Welcome back sec gamer! The whole gang has come home. How exciting.
Thoughts on the MOU? do you still consider this total W for America?
Thoughts on the MOU? do you still consider this total W for America?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:00 pm to Wwarmouth
Why do you hate America?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:08 pm to ugasickem
That's the problem friend. I love America which is why it pisses me off when we get into stupid fricking wars, at the behest of another nation, that cause major issues for Americans.
Are you enjoying 2023 level inflation? Or the elevated gas prices? Do you like the strategic oil reserve being this low? Do you like depleting our high cost munitions and accomplishing literally nothing? Do you like China and Iran being stronger? Do you like lame duck presidents?
Wake up buddy.
Are you enjoying 2023 level inflation? Or the elevated gas prices? Do you like the strategic oil reserve being this low? Do you like depleting our high cost munitions and accomplishing literally nothing? Do you like China and Iran being stronger? Do you like lame duck presidents?
Wake up buddy.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:32 pm to Wwarmouth
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Here is the text of the 14-point agreement:
The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war, by signing this MOU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon and other provisions of this paragraph.
The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran undertake to respect each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and to refrain from interfering in each other’s internal affairs. ?
The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran commit to negotiating and achieving the final deal in maximum 60 days extendable with mutual consent.
Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.
Upon the signing of this MOU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days only from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, and considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles in de-mining by the Islamic Republic of Iran will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialogue with the Sultanate of Oman to define the future administration and Maritime Services Administrator Hormuz in discussion with other Persian Gulf states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.
The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD $300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days.
The United States of America undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MOU and until the termination of sanctions, U.S. Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products, and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.
The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Upon the implementation of this MOU, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiations. Such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.
The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree that an executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementation of this MOU and the future compliance of the final deal.A
After signing this MOU and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10, and 11 of this MOU, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will start negotiations regarding the final deal exclusively on the other paragraphs.
The final deal will be endorsed by a binding United Nations Security Council resolution.
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