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re: Let's get political!

Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:33 pm to
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That's the problem friend. I love America which is why it pisses me off when we get into stupid fricking wars, at the behest of another nation, that cause major issues for Americans.


If Iran had a nuclear weapon, do you think they would have used it?
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:43 pm to
Nope.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:47 pm to
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Nope.


Then you disagree with every president and intelligence agency other than Obama since 1979.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:48 pm to
Have you heard about Imam al-Mahdi
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:55 pm to
Oh no! I hate that I disagree with the intelligence agencies! Crap! They are always so trustworthy and have led us into so many great decisions in the past!
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:56 pm to
Do you know what a twelver Shia Muslim is?
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:00 pm to
No, let's hear the conspiracy theory though.

I do know they are religious hardliners and the old Ayatollah had a fatwa on using nuclear weapons. He's dead now though. Like I said in the earlier pages, it would have done Iran well to not play the middle on this and to have just gone for the nuke. None of this shite would have happened for fear of them using it. See North Korea.

Still waiting on your thoughts on the MOU. Give us a peek inside the mind. I was impressed you were able to copy the text in a post. That was neat

Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:07 pm to
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let's hear the conspiracy theory though.



Is the nicene creed a conspiracy theory? It is the same to Catholics as the Imam al-Mahdi is to Twelver Shia Muslims.

The belief in the hidden imam is a fundamental tenet to twelver Shia Muslims. These are the fundamentalists who run the IRGC and Iran.

The belief is that there is a 12th prophet who has been hiding for hundreds of years. The apocalypse will call him from hiding to where he and Jesus conquer Islam's enemies.

Similar to Christians, the end of the world is a good thing. But to them, they can bring it about by bringing on nuclear war.

If Hitler had a nuke. He would have used it before defeat. Iran is no different. The war was a preemptive war.

The MOU is focused on no nuclear weapons for Iran. Iran must finally acknowledge a forfeiture of any sovereign right to a nuclear weapon.

That is one of the few defined goals of the bombing of Iran. And it is the most important aspect of the MOU.
Posted by ugasickem
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:15 pm to
Violent hip swivel doesn't care about facts
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:17 pm to
Im not going to attempt to convince him of anything.

But I will explain or point out things.
Im not shy.
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:22 pm to
A quick Google shows that the nuclear war part is a small minority. Just like some Christians want to bring on end times. Boring

Also, if you truly believe that, were you mad that trump killed the Ayatollah that had a fatwa on nuclear weapons? or do you pick and choose which Islam boogie man stories to believe when it's convenient.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:20 pm to
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Also, if you truly believe that, were you mad that trump killed the Ayatollah


Not at all.

Have you heard of taqiyya?
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:21 pm to
Would you support attacking Germany in 1938 to prevent the carnage that followed?
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:24 pm to
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Boring


Thats a boring way to dismiss what you dont like.

Is this thread filled with this retort?
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:13 am to
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Would you support attacking Germany in 1938 to prevent the carnage that followed?


Evidently we did not learn this lesson

Putin is doing it again and yet we fail to address the bigger threat


As to the Middle East, oil caused this problem and it is all about oil in the end. All the rest of the "chatter" is just to obfuscate the oil issue.

Over a century ago the Standard Oil Company & British Petroleum recognized a tribe of wandering nomads over the Persian Empire for the oil concession. The "white folks" lands of Europe and America have been the bad guys since. To make matters worse we put the European Jews in Israel and gave them a country with no oil.

Not the finest hour for Anglo Policy decisions and the one POTUS who brokered a genuine peace, we ridicule. Oddly, the most Christian POTUS in my lifetime, but that is how the spin doctors protect the oil interests.
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:35 am to
Embarrassing display. I expected better from you.

I'm sure you will continue to deflect, but I'll ask one more time...what are your thoughts on the MOU? Are you happy with the outcome of this war? Do you consider it a success?
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:38 am to
If anyone is on the verge of Holocaust level evil, it is Bibi and Israel

They have invaded 3 sovereign nations, rape POWs with impunity, kill women and children, starve populations, destroy historical sites, and in general are just belligerent psychopaths.

Trump is finally starting to see it...maybe those in this thread will too since daddy Donnie says it's okay now.
Posted by Rex Feral
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:21 am to
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They have invaded 3 sovereign nations, rape POWs with impunity, kill women and children, starve populations, destroy historical sites, and in general are just belligerent psychopaths.


The Israeli's go Old Testament when they fight. If you're going to war, that's the way to do it.
Posted by AlaCowboy46
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:00 am to
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If Iran had a nuclear weapon, do you think they would have used it?


They have vowed many times they want to wipe Israel off the map. They would probably use a nuke on them if they had one.
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:49 pm to
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