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re: Kirby's Vision....
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:52 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:52 am to Crowknowsbest
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looked at another way
Total apples to oranges comparison by PB.
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:31 am to DaveyDownerDawg
How is it apples and oranges? I used the same metrics.
Many of the comments are how decimated the team was due to the attrition. I think this shows that every team has attrition at a pretty hig rate. The benefit is you can recruit/sign more the next year. I am not stating the Bama class is the same as ours. I am stating that they also had attrition due to transfer at a high rate, lost a few to the NFL, and have a few that don't contribute.
Many of the comments are how decimated the team was due to the attrition. I think this shows that every team has attrition at a pretty hig rate. The benefit is you can recruit/sign more the next year. I am not stating the Bama class is the same as ours. I am stating that they also had attrition due to transfer at a high rate, lost a few to the NFL, and have a few that don't contribute.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:33 am to fibonaccisquared
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Ah downvotes and no replies... the last vestige of the incorrect. Thanks for confirming.
Who? Me? What did I do or not do ?
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:43 am to Peter Buck
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I am stating that they also had attrition due to transfer at a high rate, lost a few to the NFL, and have a few that don't contribute.
Well of course, you can say that exact same sentence about a frick ton of football teams. But again it's not really a big deal at bama because they just continue to roll in 5* top rated players at every single position so they just keep on rolling as usual. When it happens to us, we have to move people to unnatural positions, start walkons, and pray that that under the radar 3* guy can carry his weight. These 2 situations aren't close.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:48 am to WG_Dawg
The point was that this 2013 class was Smart's undoing this year...according to the posters. When isolated, it looks pretty bad, but compared to the same class of the National Champs it doesn't look outrageous or season crippling. Agree?
It is not where we want to be by any means... I get that I promise.
It is not where we want to be by any means... I get that I promise.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:56 am to Peter Buck
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When isolated, it looks pretty bad, but compared to the same class of the National Champs it doesn't look outrageous or season crippling. Agree?
Well, taking absolutely nothing else into account yes I agree that they both have a lot of attrition and non-contributors. But that doesn't nearly tell the tale of where we're at.
You can't pin all the blame on any one single thing, but it's pretty clear that the utter failure of that class is a major and I mean MAJOR reason that we're going to be average at best this year adn that has nothing to do with kirby.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:03 am to WG_Dawg
We have 5 starters from that class and two grad transfers starting. One of them was a starter for Bama last year. It's not like there are no older starters on the team.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:03 am to WG_Dawg
Every team has frickn problems and it is the coach's job to work through them.
Next point: How many 4 & 5 star DL are in each recruiting class? How many are on the current roster? If you go next level in depth analysis, the Dawgs are fckn stacked
Next point: How many 4 & 5 star DL are in each recruiting class? How many are on the current roster? If you go next level in depth analysis, the Dawgs are fckn stacked
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:11 am to Chris_topher
WTF does a nerd know of anything being stacked?
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:48 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:14 am to Peter Buck
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We have 5 starters from that class
5 out of 24 positions are starters in what should be our Senior/RSJr class. That's not very good, is it?
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If you go next level in depth analysis, the Dawgs are fckn stacked
We have a lot of young talent, and over the next 2 yeras should have a ton more. I feel good about where we'll be as a program in 2-3 years but that's irrelevant right now.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:15 am to Peter Buck
Objectively, Bama's 2013 class looks way better than UGA's, and it shows. Their seniors on the whole are way better football players than ours are. A lot of their backups would probably play a lot for us.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:23 am to WG_Dawg
POP QUIZ:
2010-2016
Match each excuse with it's corresponding year.
1) Injuries
2) Penalties
3) Defensive Coordinator
4) Turnovers
5) Offensive Coordinator
6) Personnel
7) Head Coach
2010-2016
Match each excuse with it's corresponding year.
1) Injuries
2) Penalties
3) Defensive Coordinator
4) Turnovers
5) Offensive Coordinator
6) Personnel
7) Head Coach
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:33 am to Chris_topher
Idk but I take solace in the fact that as awful as we've been in that given time frame it still doesn't' hold a candle to the ineptitude on display in the flats.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:39 am to WG_Dawg
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5 out of 24 positions are starters in what should be our Senior/RSJr class. That's not very good, is it?
I think it needs to be more balanced. I'd say 8 SR/RsJR would be ideal with 4 more in the two deep. Throw in a few RsSRs too. Do we have any?
One of the benefits of the attrition is getting grad transfers. Add that and we are at 7 this year. Still not ideal, but it's not staggering or team killing.
It should also be note that Kirbs did run off a Starter from this class. Maybe it was deserved, but it wasn't necessarily a hand he was dealt.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:43 am to RD Dawg
Excuse me because I have a life and don't spend every waking second reading a message board.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:46 am to Peter Buck
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Throw in a few RsSRs too. Do we have any?
Pyke and Catalina. Pyke's probably the only non-graduate transfer senior we have with a decent chance to stick in the NFL.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:48 am to Crowknowsbest
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Pyke's probably the only non-graduate transfer senior we have with a decent chance to stick in the NFL.
And he'll do it at his natural position at guard, yet he's being forced out of position in '16 due to our dreadful OL recruiting the last 5 years.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:12 pm to WG_Dawg
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5 out of 24 positions are starters in what should be our Senior/RSJr class.
Pretty piss poor I suppose.Wonder how many from Miami's '13 class are starting vs GT?
Why don't you take a look? About the same maybe 1 less.Pretty bad class wouldn't you say?
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:22 pm to RD Dawg
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Wonder how many from Miami's '13 class are starting vs GT?
Why don't you take a look? About the same maybe 1 less.Pretty bad class wouldn't you say?
What does this have to do with anything?
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:32 pm to RD Dawg
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Wonder how many from Miami's '13 class are starting vs GT?
that means nothing considering Richt wasn't there 3 years ago
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