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Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:01 am to RFDAWG
I get salty on this topic because i feel like most of the people that scream the loudest are the ones that jsut regurgitate memes they saw a decade ago and take it as fact. I mean half his detractors say "all he did was run, run, pass...even I knew what plays were coming!" while hte other half thinks it's still giggleworthy to yell "run the ball bobo!!" Well, which is it? Are we passing too much and need to run more, or are we running on 2/3 of our plays? Hating on bobo is the hating on nickelback of the mid-aughts, it's somethign that a couple people did then others latched on then it became mainstream and it was the "cool" thing to do.
At the time he left, you could make a VERY STRONG argument that bobo was the best OC we'd ever had in our history. We were putting up record shattering numbers at the end of his tenure. In 2012 we had great pieces all along the offense and put up outstanding offensive numbers. In 2013 we had a great QB but lost all our best offensive playments 1/4 of the way through the season and still put up great numbers. 2014 we had a great run game but less than overwhelming pass catchers and hutston at QB. And his whole tenure he had to deal with patchwork and no-depth OLs that richt recruited. He would have upgrades at just about every level currently.
Also have to remember it was a very different era back then. It wasn't until rihgt at the tail end of his tenture that the CFB landscape really shfited twoards the offenses we see of today. When bobo first started calling plays at UGA us and most everyone else was still a HEAVY pro-style system. Wiht a fullback for cripes sake! So not only was he calling plays within the overall big picture scheme of his era, but he was calling within Richt's system. Richt was a QB, former OC, and offensive guy through and through. Bobo may have had freedom to take the reigns but he was still within the structure of what Richt wanted. Here he's under a defensive head coach so I have to imagine he'll have a lot more flexibility to do waht he wants.
On that note, he isn't necessasrly the old codger dinosaur people think. I remember in 2012 we ran some pistol formation which ahd never really be done much at UGA at the time. I think DamnGoodDawg on here even made some memes about it (btw is he still alive?). In 2013 against florida we ran this weird tight end bubble screen thing that bobo said he'd never called in his life before nad it would have gone 80 yards for a TD if we didn't drop it instead. Towards the end of his tenure we ran some diamond formation. We ran some wildcat which was the trendy thing to do tat the time. Point is, he did very clearly show adaptibility and a tendency to think outside the box.
lastly, and as briefly touched on above, he has never in his life had the full top to bottom situation he'd have as OC here now. In his early days here he may have had some elite skill pieces (2008 comes to mind), but if your OL and defense are mediocre how mcuh does it matter? 2012 was probably the best melting of solid pieces all across the offense PLUS a good defense and we set records. Many times in his tenure here he was hampered by glaring issues at multiple levels, and having a grantham defense generally does your offense no favors. At CSU all the good players mcelwain recruited had left and he was the HC not just playcaller so I don't really care what he did there. SC and AU have been mediocre to downright pathetic lately so dont' really care what he did there either. With what kirby has built at all 22 positions, you'd have to be a schottenheimer/coley level absolutely failure to not have success with this offense. And I don't see any reason why bobo couldn't do well here.
At the time he left, you could make a VERY STRONG argument that bobo was the best OC we'd ever had in our history. We were putting up record shattering numbers at the end of his tenure. In 2012 we had great pieces all along the offense and put up outstanding offensive numbers. In 2013 we had a great QB but lost all our best offensive playments 1/4 of the way through the season and still put up great numbers. 2014 we had a great run game but less than overwhelming pass catchers and hutston at QB. And his whole tenure he had to deal with patchwork and no-depth OLs that richt recruited. He would have upgrades at just about every level currently.
Also have to remember it was a very different era back then. It wasn't until rihgt at the tail end of his tenture that the CFB landscape really shfited twoards the offenses we see of today. When bobo first started calling plays at UGA us and most everyone else was still a HEAVY pro-style system. Wiht a fullback for cripes sake! So not only was he calling plays within the overall big picture scheme of his era, but he was calling within Richt's system. Richt was a QB, former OC, and offensive guy through and through. Bobo may have had freedom to take the reigns but he was still within the structure of what Richt wanted. Here he's under a defensive head coach so I have to imagine he'll have a lot more flexibility to do waht he wants.
On that note, he isn't necessasrly the old codger dinosaur people think. I remember in 2012 we ran some pistol formation which ahd never really be done much at UGA at the time. I think DamnGoodDawg on here even made some memes about it (btw is he still alive?). In 2013 against florida we ran this weird tight end bubble screen thing that bobo said he'd never called in his life before nad it would have gone 80 yards for a TD if we didn't drop it instead. Towards the end of his tenure we ran some diamond formation. We ran some wildcat which was the trendy thing to do tat the time. Point is, he did very clearly show adaptibility and a tendency to think outside the box.
lastly, and as briefly touched on above, he has never in his life had the full top to bottom situation he'd have as OC here now. In his early days here he may have had some elite skill pieces (2008 comes to mind), but if your OL and defense are mediocre how mcuh does it matter? 2012 was probably the best melting of solid pieces all across the offense PLUS a good defense and we set records. Many times in his tenure here he was hampered by glaring issues at multiple levels, and having a grantham defense generally does your offense no favors. At CSU all the good players mcelwain recruited had left and he was the HC not just playcaller so I don't really care what he did there. SC and AU have been mediocre to downright pathetic lately so dont' really care what he did there either. With what kirby has built at all 22 positions, you'd have to be a schottenheimer/coley level absolutely failure to not have success with this offense. And I don't see any reason why bobo couldn't do well here.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:13 am to Kneehigh
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My only gripe was 1 & G from the 2 down in Columbia with Gurley, Chubb, and Marshall at your disposal.
thsi is another regurgitation that people latch onto for dear life jsut because htey've repeated it so often that they don't even hear what they're saying anymore. Thsi is the biggest irritation whenever people bring up bobo sucking.
First of all, why in the frick do people lambaste a play action pass? It's not like we tried a triple reverse pass. I've seen monkey and stetston pull some dumber shite inside the 15 than that as recently as 2 games ago. The problem on that play was mason, 100%. Not gurley, not the playcall. Go watch it again. There's pressure coming so he just throws it immediately into the ground at the defenders feet for ingentioanl grounding. It doesn't matter how good of a call you draw up, the palyerse have to still not frick it up. And btw, we had another player coming across that was wide open to receive a pass had mason seen him.
On second down we did give it to gurley. On 3rd down a DL tipped a pass. THEN MARSHALL MORGAN MISSED A 28 YARD FIELD GOAL.
If morgan makes a kick he should in his sleep, nobody on earth is talkign abotu the 1st down call. People just ahve to find SOMEONE to blame when things don't go well, and in a game where the defense gave up 38 points and we missed a 28 yard field goal with 5 minutes left, somehow for some reason people latch onto bobo.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:31 am to WG_Dawg
Bobo has failed, miserably, at every stop after UGA.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:07 am to Cheer
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Bobo has failed, miserably, at every stop after UGA.
a whole 2 year sample size at fledgling programs, whooppee. He was OC for a SC team in 2020 that went 2-8, and OC for AU in 21 that went 6-7. What he did at either one of those programs really has no bearing on his potential here.
and FTR, I'm not even advocating that he get the job. I think at the level we're at now, for any and all openings we have we should scour the country top to bottom, across all leagues and levels, and find the absolutely very best person for that job. Something tells me bobo probably doesn't fit that description. So I'm not trying to push him for the opening. I'm simply saying the complalints about him are ridiculous and overblown and based on funny sayings people have put on hats.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:24 am to WG_Dawg
Yeah, CSU has struggled for a while and Auburn tried to sabotage their own program.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:32 am to RD Dawg
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Such bullshite.Not even close but somehow this idiocy is the narrative for mouth breathers who have zero recollection of his time as OC.
How many times do you recall Carlton Thomas getting his 150 pound arse blasted running up the gut on third down? Any answer other than Too Fukking many is incorrect
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 10:35 am
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:35 am to SpurandBlue
That CSU team that Bobo took over from Shark fricker was humming along prior to Bobo. There is a reason he landed the job at UF.
I mean, justify it however you want, but Bobo hasn't even found an ounce of success outside of his first run as an OC at UGA.
Whatever Kirby decides will be what is best, but let's not just ignore Bobo's complete body of work by only discussing his prior success.
I mean, justify it however you want, but Bobo hasn't even found an ounce of success outside of his first run as an OC at UGA.
Whatever Kirby decides will be what is best, but let's not just ignore Bobo's complete body of work by only discussing his prior success.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:36 am to NytroBud
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How many times do you recall Carlton Thomas getting his 150 pound arse blasted running up the gut on third down
I just had flashbacks, lulz!
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:45 am to Cheer
It seems highly unlikely that Bobo is the absolute best candidate for the job.
He was a good OC before, but that was basically a decade ago.
He was a good OC before, but that was basically a decade ago.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 10:47 am
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:54 am to WG_Dawg
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Hating on bobo is the hating on nickelback of the mid-aughts, it's somethign that a couple people did then others latched on then it became mainstream and it was the "cool" thing to do.
Whoa whoa whoa. Nickelback really does suck.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:03 am to RedPants
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Whoa whoa whoa. Nickelback really does suck.
they aren't that good. But it's a pretty well known meme that they're "omg like the worst band evarrr1!!!" which they clearly are not. They've had 2 or 3 radio hits that were pretty big adn they actually sing and paly their own instruments so by default they are not the worst ever. There are thousands, actaully millions, of bands or musical groups that are certainly worse but most of which we hear nothign about because they are so bad they don't even register into the public consiousness. But just like the bobo topic, for some reason it became the cool flavor of the month thing to do back around 2006ish to talk about how nickelback is simply the worst entity to ever exist in the music industry since its inception and then people just parroted it from there for virtual cool-points.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:30 am to WG_Dawg
You will die alone on the nickleback hill.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:35 am to deeprig9
the hill that they aren't literally the worst band to ever exist? Nah I think there's probably a bunch of people on there.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:50 am to claydawg09
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Considering our status in the CFB universe I see no reason not to have a national search for the best possible fit as far as scheme, recruiting, experience, etc. If Kirby decides that Bobo fits that description then I trust him.
This. I think we should do a national search and hire the best OC and if that happens to be Bobo then so be it.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 12:01 pm to MadQfrog
Because we dont want to change what we are doing on offense, can take year of struggles to place a new oc in an existing system.
We have it going on now, Bobo knows our current system so we can keep on rocking.
We have it going on now, Bobo knows our current system so we can keep on rocking.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 12:03 pm to WG_Dawg
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the hill that they aren't literally the worst band to ever exist?
That's one low bar
Posted on 2/1/23 at 12:57 pm to RedPants
Couldnt cut it as a wise man, couldnt cut it as a poor man stealing...
Or
you mean more to me than just another piece of leg....
Or
you mean more to me than just another piece of leg....
Posted on 2/1/23 at 1:07 pm to RFDAWG
I think most feel Bobo could be antiquated at this point and we like Monken's newer style to the O.
re: Monken though, I think if he stays and 3 peats, he would get a shot at a head coaching spot in the NFL.
re: Monken though, I think if he stays and 3 peats, he would get a shot at a head coaching spot in the NFL.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 1:08 pm to RD Dawg
I had to look back at Wiki. Bobo was OC from 2007-2014. 07-11 you could say he was cutting his teeth but there were questions red zone calls and an inordinate amount of run plays up the middle. I thought Murray and Gurley probably saved he and Richt's job. We did have good QB and WR development under Bobo. I recall we ran a pro style w/ some spread mixed in. Bobo would probably consider his health if he were to decide to get back to OC. I think he fully recovered from his nerve issues. If Bobo were to get back to OC it would be a chance for him to redeem himself after mediocre stints at CSU, SC, and Auburn. I think those kind of hang over his head when other programs are considering hiring him as OC or HC.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 3:55 pm
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