re: J.K. Dobbins Deserved the Invitation

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I don’t think calling audibles at the line is some mythical ability that Fromm possesses that makes him better the others.

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Then we will have to agree to disagree, then. If you cannot see how audibles are important then there is no longer anything to talk about.

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In this day and age the fact that he even does it is rare since most college offenses look to the sideline.

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This alone should be a huge clue as to how special the ability is...and how important.

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It certainly didn’t make much of a difference this year since we regressed so much

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To make a statement like this tells me you pin all the troubles on Fromm. Enough said. Anybody that would say our problems were all on Fromm simply does not understand football at all. Sorry. I don't mean to be harsh or rude. It simply is what it is. The many reasons we struggled have been debated, talked about and on display all season. To not understand all of the reasons you would have to be willfully not looking.

Even the harshest of Fromm critics would tell you that there were a multitude of problems with our offense, and not just Fromm.

For you to not understand the importance of checking off a bad play into a good one boggles my mind. I'm shocked that it is even an issue.

Pretty sure we do both. We trust Fromm to adjust at the line as well from what i can tell.

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It has nothing to do with the offensive system we run and everything to do with the coaches comfort level in allowing Fromm to audible.

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Believe what you want. Fromm doesn’t get to call audibles while others don’t (and plenty of other do because that also is their system) because he posses some magical defensive reading ability that others don’t possess. You are majorly over hyping this as some difference maker for him and it just isn’t.

There is plenty in his game that makes him a difference maker namely his timing, decision making, and accuracy but being able to audible isn’t one of them except that it would slightly cut down his leaning curve in the pros vs another prospect who doesn’t run a pro system

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Probably. But we know for sure they wouldn’t have been without Fields.

Y’all can spin all you want. But wearing a lineman’s knee brace Fields made 1 mistake the 1st int that resulted in no points. The second was not his fault. The only ones blaming him are the haters here. Every time expert, Ryan Day, and Chris Olave; admits Fields got the play they wanted and made the throw, Olave made the mistake. Why none of you can see that is beyond me. Just like against USC, Jake made the mistake on the pick 6; but the receivers made the mistakes on the other 2.

Jk should have been in NY; but so should have Fields... maybe not Young, his last 3 games his numbers dropped. But Fields has Heisman numbers; burrows was just ridiculous!

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He telegraphed that last pass. The safety saw it and had position. The WR fell only because he was pulling off the post to run a post corner. Likely an option route. The option would have been based on where the coverage was. It was not a good read by Fields and frankly, it was him locking on the primary too many times in the game that caught up to him with the athletes Clemson had on defense. If the WR stays on that route, he may could have played defense or made a great play on the ball, but it likely at best ends up as an incomplete pass. Also, #8 was wide open on the right side, but he never looked over there.

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Wrong again peter. The option was based on the wr reading his qb wrong:

“After the game, Olave took the blame, saying he broke off his route because he thought Fields was scrambling.”

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That’s what he said, but the route was covered, Fields was locked on it, and the defender had position. If he looked to the right, he had Dobbins for the 1st down or #8 at the goal line. This one is on Fields.

If a uga wr admitted to being at fault for the play, zero chance you would ignore that, and then shift the blame to Fromm. Let’s face it. You can’t be trusted with your Fromm and fields takes.

Due to your obvious bias, You wouldn’t try to make these points if it involved fromm and his wr. That’s the issue.

Interesting take. If that’s the intent, he has failed. Exposing his own bias doesn’t necessarily expose the bias of others. Certainly not in this case.

Applaud the trolls effort, but it just didn’t work, though I wouldn’t expect you to understand that based upon your confusion in our discussion.

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You get exposed for the same incorrect talking points (fields didnt get enough key plays.... well those plays dont count because of the playcall... smart didnt give him a chance despite more passes than Tebows freshman year and more snaps than Shockleys freshman season).

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Everyone uses the same talking points in this argument. Unfortunately, only one side is willing to admit that Fields is better and that Smart kept the lesser QB. It's not even really debatable at this point. There is not a single analyst worth his salt who would choose Fromm over Fields. It stings and some people are angry about it. That's why these arguments continue. Nobody is going to change their minds.

The only thing that matters now is Fromm has to be far better next year. The excuses have run out. They should have run out this past season. Fromm has played in every single kind of game and atmosphere a college QB can. He was a junior with two full seasons of playing experience, and he got worse. He had trouble completing routine passing plays or making accurate throws to wide open guys. He missed other wide open guys by not even seeing them. He was worse in hitting the check down. His mechanics and footwork were worse. He has to get better. Stop aiming the ball and playing scared, which it appeared he did. Physically, he is what he is, but he could at least hit or find the open guys.

Yes, the receivers and Coley have to be better. Fromm wasn't the only issue.

Strangely enough, the argument isn't even about Dobbins anymore, who is a great back. However, he did cost his team by dropping two TDs. He also was a big reason they had a two TD lead.