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Posted on 10/15/18 at 11:04 am to Walkthedawg
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we're just young and need the coaches to make better decisions
This is the scary part. Losing because we're young is acceptable because it implies we'll get better with experience (and assuming we maintain our stellar recruiting).
We have no business losing because coaches are making bad decisions. How often does Alabama get get an "F" for coaching? Wasn't Smart supposed to be a protege of Saban and bring with him a decade of knowledge and experience under the master?
And since Saban and Smart are both defense guys, it's vital that they have an OC who's going to know how to game plan and make adjustments on the fly. Does Smart have that with Chaney?
The real question for me is: Just how good is Smart? Will he learn and progress? Or is he hard headed and not all that smart?
I sure hope it's age and being relatively new as a head coach.
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 11:05 am
Posted on 10/15/18 at 1:22 pm to Lucius Clay
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we're just young and need the coaches to make better decisions
This is the scary part. Losing because we're young is acceptable because it implies we'll get better with experience (and assuming we maintain our stellar recruiting).
We have no business losing because coaches are making bad decisions. How often does Alabama get get an "F" for coaching? Wasn't Smart supposed to be a protege of Saban and bring with him a decade of knowledge and experience under the master?
And since Saban and Smart are both defense guys, it's vital that they have an OC who's going to know how to game plan and make adjustments on the fly. Does Smart have that with Chaney?
The real question for me is: Just how good is Smart? Will he learn and progress? Or is he hard headed and not all that smart?
I sure hope it's age and being relatively new as a head coach.
yeah you raise the crux of the issue. Saban may not be an offensive guru but he knows what he sees and wants from his offenses and is generally able to impose that through his OC.
I think Kirby could have impacted the offensive game plan sat (a la saban), but maybe he had his hands full with the D etc.
Saban is the absolute gold standard, maybe OF ALL TIME so maybe our expectations for Smart are a little much. But even Saban has had some hiccups as well along the way.
Hopefully there is some soul searching and learning from this. They are certainly going to all grow up and work hard and recruit well. So I'm a little shaken but still optimistic overall.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 3:04 pm to miledawg
Up until Saturday, Smart and Co have been VERY GOOD making in game adjustments. Was surprised they didnt even seem to try this weekend, very out of character. We all knew that the long-developing drop-back pass played right into LSU's strength especially after the first few drives. It's like Kirby wasnt watching the game or couldnt accept that LSU is REALLY good in the secondary.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 6:11 pm to SthGADawg
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If we lose to UF and UK....he is on the hot seat for me.
Your concern is:
[X] Noted
[ } Not noted
- Kirby Smart
Posted on 10/15/18 at 10:36 pm to SthGADawg
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McEars should be sitting him down for some serious deliberation.
Retiring at the end of the school year.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 11:36 pm to SthGADawg
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If we lose to a Florida team that is "rebuilding" and to UK...fricking UK! I will be in demand of him really really putting some shite together. He would have 2019 to fix it or he should be gone.
What does “fix it” mean to you?
Posted on 10/15/18 at 11:41 pm to Lucius Clay
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I sure hope it's age and being relatively new as a head coach.
Relatively new? It’s his third fricking season and he’s already got a conference title under his belt.
I fee pretty confident that Kirby will figure it out, in spite of how disappointed you’ll be.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:42 am to SthGADawg
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If we lose to UF and UK....he is on the hot seat for me. Too mush talent
Posted on 10/16/18 at 7:51 am to Cobb Dawg
that's a cute little gif.
You telling me that if these Bulldogs...as talented as they are...lose to UK AND UF you wont be the slightest bit concerned about the abilities of the head coach to get them right?
I love Kirby...don't get me wrong. I have been on the Kirby train since way back.. I also liked Richt as a man and he was awesome in years 2-3. Then we got locked into perpetual purgatory of being good but not great. Why did we hire Kirby?
I thought it was to break that cycle.
IF..IF we lose three games this year. 2 of them to East teams in UK/UF and dont even make it to Atlanta....the hot seat conversation will lead into 2019 season....and it will be the media saying....not just me on a message board.
If something special doesn't happen in January time frame of 2020, we should start looking for a coach again...
That is what I'm saying. How can any Dawg fan disagree? Mind you...no hot seat now...but IF.
You telling me that if these Bulldogs...as talented as they are...lose to UK AND UF you wont be the slightest bit concerned about the abilities of the head coach to get them right?
I love Kirby...don't get me wrong. I have been on the Kirby train since way back.. I also liked Richt as a man and he was awesome in years 2-3. Then we got locked into perpetual purgatory of being good but not great. Why did we hire Kirby?
I thought it was to break that cycle.
IF..IF we lose three games this year. 2 of them to East teams in UK/UF and dont even make it to Atlanta....the hot seat conversation will lead into 2019 season....and it will be the media saying....not just me on a message board.
If something special doesn't happen in January time frame of 2020, we should start looking for a coach again...
That is what I'm saying. How can any Dawg fan disagree? Mind you...no hot seat now...but IF.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 8:03 am to SthGADawg
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IF..IF we lose three games this year. 2 of them to East teams in UK/UF and dont even make it to Atlanta....the hot seat conversation will lead into 2019 season....and it will be the media saying....not just me on a message board.
We’re recruiting better than ever which means there’s more talent on this team than ever before. We have a coach who will be one year removed from winning the SEC and going to OT of the NC game.
Who are we going to get that is better than Kirby Smart and what look does it give incoming recruits if we’re already putting Kirby on the hot seat?
Posted on 10/16/18 at 8:16 am to Dawgsontop34
Any notion that Kirby will be on the hot seat is ludicrous.
IF we fail to win the east, what will happen is a serious blow to our recruiting prowess and growing national reputation.
There are a handful of programs that are perceived "contenders" on the national stage. UGA has entered that grouping for the first time in a long time with the performance on the field last year.
It's essential that we hold serve to a degree sufficient enough to keep us in that conversation in order to continue building towards a chance at a national title. This will require top flight recruiting in 2019 and 2020 as well as some growth and adaptation from Smart/staff.
IF we fail to win the east, what will happen is a serious blow to our recruiting prowess and growing national reputation.
There are a handful of programs that are perceived "contenders" on the national stage. UGA has entered that grouping for the first time in a long time with the performance on the field last year.
It's essential that we hold serve to a degree sufficient enough to keep us in that conversation in order to continue building towards a chance at a national title. This will require top flight recruiting in 2019 and 2020 as well as some growth and adaptation from Smart/staff.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 8:19 am to SquatchDawg
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Mark Bradley can suck it. We lose our first game of the season and he’s there to pile on.
In my estimation, he's been a GT guy since he came to the AJC, even though he started his career covering KY. football. After all...Isn't he the one who first called Paul Johnson 'The Genius?'
Posted on 10/16/18 at 8:23 am to gatorhata9
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I fee pretty confident that Kirby will figure it out, in spite of how disappointed you’ll be.
Lame, emotional defense of Smart. No one will be disappointed if Kirby becomes the next Saban. The question is: How did he get so obviously outcoached against LSU? (Or was it all Chaney's fault?)
I asked if it was a function of being a relatively young head coach. Apparently since you're confident that he'll "figure it out", you must agree that he is, in fact, still in a learning mode.
Let's hope so!
This post was edited on 10/16/18 at 8:25 am
Posted on 10/16/18 at 8:37 am to lewis and herschel
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Fields would have gotten eaten alive trying to throw into that secondary.
here's my biggest problem with this mindest:
-You have Fromm in there because he's seasoned and can make the reads better...but saturday he didn't. He looked just as confused as a TFr would
-Fromm continued his shoddy mid/long range game that we've seen for a few weeks now. By all accounts Fields is an outstanding passer
-The biggest thing to me is that on some of those breakdowns where Fromm looked lost or took inexplicable sacks, Fields has the ability to break out of those and gain yards. Even if we aren't drawing up a QB sneak, he can still gain yards when a play breaks down that fromm quite clearly can and did not
So when we ended up getting down 20 and the game was essentially over, why not at least give fields a chance to see what he can do
Posted on 10/16/18 at 8:40 am to Dawgsontop34
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there’s more talent on this team than ever before.
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We have a coach who will be one year removed from winning the SEC and going to OT of the NC game.
thanks for supporting my reasoning for why this guy should not be allowed to drop three games and not make an SECCCG appearance this year without feeling some pressure going into 2019.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 8:41 am to WG_Dawg
Not advocating either way, but the RPO changes defenses completely. It would have at least changed the game away from LSU's clear defensive strength. I think Fromm is a very good QB, but you have to "take what the defense gives you". On Saturday, that defense was not giving us the slow-developing drop-back pass.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 8:49 am to NCDawg52
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essential that we hold serve to a degree sufficient enough to keep us in that conversation in order to continue building towards a chance at a national title.
Then we better not choke vs Florida
Posted on 10/16/18 at 8:50 am to SthGADawg
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thanks for supporting my reasoning for why this guy should not be allowed to drop three games and not make an SECCCG appearance this year without feeling some pressure going into 2019.
I should have used the word potential. Feeling heat in 2019 does nothing productive for our team. All it does is make the fans feel better, and that should not be our priority.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 9:05 am to Hobnailboot
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RPO
There is no football related term that is more misunderstood than this one. Running an RPO has nothing to do with a mobile quarterback. In fact, a substantial amount of our offensive plays this year and last year with Jake Fromm are RPO concepts.
Typically, when I see people talk about RPO as it relates to Fields, I assume they mean read option/veer looks, but it's hard to tell what people mean.
If a QB change were made, Georgia would run a lot of RPO concepts, but that would be because that's already what we do on offense...
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