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re: In game adjustments

Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:13 am to
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15883 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:13 am to
439 yards is fantastic, but he did that because he threw the ball 50 times. Have you ever seen a Georgia QB throw 50 times in a game and we weren't getting our asses handed to us?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:19 am to
The point is a QB who does that is not “lost”.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19895 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:26 am to
Maybe. However, bama did the same thing as KY did in switching coverages. Did he look like he grasped that? And that safety - what 5th year sr would even think to throw the ball away in the endzone?
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
23559 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:40 am to
Jacob Eason threw it 55 times against Mizzou in his first road start. It was a tight game.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3239 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:44 am to
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The point is a QB who does that is not “lost”.


A guy who throws 3 picks, fumbles, and gets an intentional grounding safety is definitely lost. He looked like he'd go undrafted in that 1st half. And a 54% completion percentage was good when Fran Tarkenton played

Our team got straight up pantsed man. There's no denying it. It happens, it'll be OK. Heck, Peyton Manning himself has a 6 int game and 20+ games with 3 or more ints. Beck played the worst game of his young career Saturday, but now he's got a great opportunity to rewrite the story and whup Auburn.

Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32279 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:52 am to
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A guy who throws 3 picks, fumbles, and gets an intentional grounding safety is definitely lost


really cant spin it any other way. these are the facts
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 1:12 pm to
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A guy who throws 3 picks, fumbles, and gets an intentional grounding safety is definitely lost. He looked like he'd go undrafted in that 1st half. And a 54% completion percentage was good when Fran Tarkenton played

Our team got straight up pantsed man. There's no denying it. It happens, it'll be OK. Heck, Peyton Manning himself has a 6 int game and 20+ games with 3 or more ints. Beck played the worst game of his young career Saturday, but now he's got a great opportunity to rewrite the story and whup Auburn



Yet, he was a few chucks and lucky bounces away from still winning the game. He had a poor first half and overall not a great game. A lost guy doesn’t put up 450 yards and 3 TDs. There are facts as well.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5696 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 1:27 pm to
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Check out Brooks Austin latest film study. It's pretty interesting.

Plays are there to be made on every drive we had. Execution lacking, but sofl has a good point, if execution is poor every week, when is that a coach problem and not a player problem?

Gotta rep this shite. Now Arian should catch that pass and understand and pickup the check that Beck audibles into regardless of reps.


That Man-1 Robber all game. They had the plays to put the safety in conflict and Beck made the wrong read or a shite pass over and over.

The Cover-0 check to the tunnel screen should have been automatic before the game, but it should definitely been automatic after seeing it twice. Dom Lovett is definitely good enough to exploit that cushion and make them pay, but we waitid until 25-30 minutes in the even give him a chance.

There were so many missed opportunities. I don't know whether to feel better or worse about it.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18993 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:03 am to
I don’t think you can draw anything from the second half of that game. When you jump up like Bama did the intensity and aggressiveness both on offense and defense changes. We’ve seen this 100 times when teams take a step off when they think the game is won nd start celebrating early.

We almost made Bama pay for this but as soon as we were up…bam. We really don’t know how 2nd half UGA vs 1st half Bama would’ve played out over the course of the game. Beck having 400 yds against a team that was already counting the W doesn’t tell us anything.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:32 pm to
I disagree
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14398 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:10 am to
Agree with your overall perspective.
But the 2nd half revealed 2 things:
1. When forced to pass we are capable of putting up a lot of points aka Beck can make some long throws and we have capable receivers.
2. The cost of this strategy without a capable running game to keep the opposing defense honest leads to turnovers with Beck at the helm.

Conclusions:
1. Beck and our current slate of receivers are not at the same level as Milroe and the Bama receivers.
2. Our current defense is good but not at the same level as our NC defenses. If they stay on the field time and time again because our offense isn't moving the ball, they can and will get burned by an ultra-talented offense like Alabama's.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:42 am to
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Staff had at least two weeks, likely started studying this game earlier, and came out with an awful gameplan.


Maybe. maybe not. I mean, you take film and study it and you form a gameplan based around what you saw from the film and throw in a bit from what they did the previous year. The gameplan they came out with might have been perfect based that. If Alabama's game plan was different from what our coaches saw it might have been a great plan to counter what they (Alabama staff) felt we would do. Georgia can't form a gameplan based off something Alabama has not done to that point. I'm not sure if what I am saying expresses it well or not.

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Why aren't these adjustments occurring earlier in the game?

If you have to make big adjustments (we did) then it is more difficult during a game. There are so many distractions. In order to get a clear message to every player involved (Starters and backups) is tricky. A couple of players getting distracted at all by team mates, what is going on on the field etc. and things can get worse fast causing injuries etc. It is so much easier in a locker room where you have the full attention of the entire offense/defense to draw stuff up an a board and make changes. (I guess everybody probably realizes that when in the locker room you typically have all the defense in one area and all the offense separated...then they come together to finish up and get encouragement and get fired up again)

During a game along the sideline, you can make minor adjustments withing a given game plan, but if you want to overhaul a game plan it is very, very difficult along a sideline. The crowd roars and it distracts players. Other players walking up to say something distracts players.

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And furthermore, if you can change direction and completely revamp a plan within a 15 minute halftime window, how the hell did they not figure this out before the game?
Because you don't know what the other team is going to do before the game starts.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:49 am to
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I don't know enough about football to criticize, but I do know when a team scores 28 points doing exactly what we where told to expect.


There is a whole lot more going on than Milroe running an option. Blocking schemes, reads, and the offense setting plays up with other plays and looks.

This is why people complain about Us running certain plays when it is obvious they are not working. It's because that play gives the other team a certain looking in the offensive set, where the RB is lined up, blocking scheme, how the QB acts...so that later in the game you line up similarly and block similarly...the defense recognizes it and reacts to stop it, but instead of handing the ball off the QB tosses the ball back to the RB...or pulls the ball and runs, or pulls the ball and passes and you catch the defense overreacting. Each play is run for a reason. It can be run to set up a later play, or to strike deep and score a TD, or simply because the staff in the coaches box saw a defensive player reacting certain ways to another play and thye think we can take advantage of that.

Most plays are not run to score, or make a first down, even.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:55 am to
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My experience is that catching the ball is a moderately important skill set in a receiver.


It's also one of the hardest. Especially a long pass. That said he should have caught the ball, no doubt. He seems fine on short to medium routes, but has difficulty with the long ball. Odd since his speed is what makes him so valuable. But again...long passes are extremely difficult...especially when you are contending with tight coverage.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19895 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:09 am to
How many receivers has beck hit in stride? I recall maybe one this year...
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:26 am to
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How many receivers has beck hit in stride? I recall maybe one this year...


I mean, you are right. Why do you think?

My opinion is he, for whatever reason, is not getting the ball out fast enough. There are a lot of reasons that could be,

1. The receiver is not open earlier.
2. He is not comfortable with throwing the receiver open. (Throwing the ball while the receiver is covered and allowing the receiver to break open. This COULD turn into an interception or maybe a TD.)
3. His arm strength just isn't there. (I have not watched to see how far his passes travel in the air, and even if they are going far, how much elevation does he have to get on the ball to make it travel that far)
4. He is under duress with the pass rush and can't set his feet fast enough.

If you watch some of our games with Alabama the past few years, most of the long passes they complete are due to the receiver getting separation and are open. I don't see our receivers getting that separation. Beck is throwing into tight windows a good portion of the time.

And, finally, he just seems to be a bit more jumpy when pressured this year.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14398 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:25 am to
Beck is usually throwing into tight coverage because our receivers aren't getting separation.
I see 2 ways a receiver gets separation: pure ability and the play design creates confusion within the defense.
We are missing McConkey big time because he had the quickness and moves to get open. We don't have any receivers with that level of quickness this season so it's going to take innovative offensive and good execution to open up receivers and give our running backs room to run as well. And obviously the run/pass offense aka balanced offense work hand in hand to keep the opposing defense guessing.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19895 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:43 am to
Go back to last year, still no one in stride. 84 was legit quick. Although that Humphries kid is no slouch, as are a few others. Looked to me like more than a few were open, yet it's always short rounds.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26788 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:45 pm to
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Maybe. maybe not. I mean, you take film and study it and you form a gameplan based around what you saw from the film and throw in a bit from what they did the previous year. The gameplan they came out with might have been perfect based that. If Alabama's game plan was different from what our coaches saw it might have been a great plan to counter what they (Alabama staff) felt we would do. Georgia can't form a gameplan based off something Alabama has not done to that point. I'm not sure if what I am saying expresses it well or not.

This is all fine and dandy, but when your team gets repeatedly trounced (at worst) or struggles (at best) to start every game over an extended period, it’s fair to ask questions about pregame preparation.
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