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How will you feel if we regress again?

Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88686 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:24 pm
Not to be an alarmist but we've declined each of the past 2 seasons to varying degrees.

-Granted, after 2022 there was only one direction you can go from there. But it was more than JUST wins and losses. I mean just looking at the black and white on paper we went 12-0 and were a hair away from another SEC title (and likely natty), but instead had a consolation prize of winning a major bowl game by 60. Hey that's incredible. But for those of us that watched every snap of every game it didn't always "FEEL" quite so incredible.

Up 17-0 at HT on UT-Martin. Losing 14-3 at HT against SC, up by 3 entering the 4th. Tied with AU at half, after 3, and with a few minutes to go in the game. Tied with mizzou at half and up by 3 with 10 minutes left. Required an INT by a DL to begin to put it away. Beat tech by 1 possession after giving them the ball back with a few minutes left.

That team started very slow then hit their stride later on in the year, but it was still much different going from '21/'22 when we pummeled jsut about everyone and knew we wre guarnateed to win once we got a 10 point lead . Still though, from 22 to 23 we expected a dropoff anyway and the overall results were still solid.

-Now we go from 23 to 24. First 2 games we kick arse and are riding high before things change.
We're losing by 3 to UK both at HT and entering the 4th. We keep a 1 point lead from 8 minutes through the end. Look like a JV team against alabama before just pretending we're playing a video game and abandon all logic and somehow get bakc in it, then lose anyway. Upu by 10 on a bad MSU team entering the 4th and it stayed there. Play the absolute game of the year in Texas and knock off the #1 team. Down by 7 at half against a lousy UF. Needed their QB to get hurt, their long snapper to frick up, and an interception by a middle linebacker to end up winning. Played truly one of the worst games I have ever seen by a UGA football team in oxford. Back on track with a couple solid wins including tennessee. Look like we forgot how to play defense against tech and go to 8 OTs wiht those losers. Again, somehow...the defesne went beastmode and beat texas a second time. We then get a team that we should be much, much better than with a month to prepare with stockton and we looked like we didn't even belong on the same field with them.


Now we can point to a hundred different reasons for WHY all of the above happened. Pretty much everythign written above is objective fact with a couple opinions thrown in, so there's not really much to debate there. My question is....is it going to bother anyone if we again trend downward for the 3rd year in a row? And the excuses can and will be numerous...breaking in a new QB, transfers at WR that don't knwo the playbook, poor OL recruiting and coaching, too many personnel losses on D, tough schedule, etc. etc. Not saying any of those things wouldn' have merit either. I am just saying thoguth that it would be a bit worrisome for me if we again appear worse than the year before for a 3rd time in a row. I trust kirby fully and completely but if we falter again youd' have to think that we'd need to make some internal changes in some form or another.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70565 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:16 pm to
23 was 12-0 with a new QB and a new record beatdown in bowl game, with the pesky bama loss in SECCG, not a big regression, only slight.

24 you have some good points.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
5727 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:29 pm to
Last year felt like several different years all in one confusing mindfrick. 2024 felt like 2004 and 2008, just because we seemed to have so many players with one foot in and the other foot in the NFL door. The sense of urgency and consistency wasn't there. Even our tight end who would've been a mid-round pick was feeling it.

“Last year, there were times I feel like I had one foot out the door, and I was just thinking about things I shouldn't have been thinking about,” Delp said. “And it just kind of hurt me in ways that I didn't think would happen.”

But 2024 also felt like 2019, when our offense was really frustrating and everybody was ready to roast the offensive coordinator. The 2019 South Carolina game definitely felt like a game we could have had in 2024.

Obviously there are new variables at play like NIL and an extended season, and I think that's also what made last season feel sort of weird and hard to put a finger on.

I also wonder if Kirby calibrated last year's team different and miscalculated a little bit. I know Kirby talked a lot about trying to scale back some things in practice and try to keep the players fresh for a longer season. I don't have any inside knowledge of our practice routine or what we did or didn't do different in practice last season, but we definitely didn't seem as hungry and aggressive last season on Saturdays.

Posted by gulfportdawg
Gulfport, Ms.
Member since Sep 2012
833 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 4:05 pm to
There were hints in 23 but hard to argue with the 12-0 record. Of course, the bed shitting against Bama is a broken record. But the 24 season was pretty ugle for winning the SECC and getting to the playoffs.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13489 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 5:01 pm to
All I know, when I start feeling the pain of the hurt, I am gonna demand some motherfrickers get fired. I didn’t work this hard reading articles and drinking before games to accept mediocracy.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14094 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 5:38 pm to
Be a shame to regress as it seems Kirby is over the NC hump and the future should include many more.

I think Beck was the problem last season.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88686 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

23 was 12-0 with a new QB and a new record beatdown in bowl game, with the pesky bama loss in SECCG, not a big regression


for sure, and I mentioned that. I know a ton of what I've said is about "feel" which is subjective as hell. I'm just saying that despite the end of game W/L results in 2023, you coudl just tell we weren't NEARLY as good as we were in 2022. Which is fine, given how elite 2022 was.

I don't think many of us expected the dropoff from 23 to 24. Bowers, Ladd, Mims, Bullard, Lassiter...I think you don't really appreciate guys like that until you see how inferior their counterparts are.
Posted by KirbySmartass
Member since Jul 2020
2525 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:03 pm to
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How will you feel if we regress again?




Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16951 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:21 pm to
Part of the fun of college football is getting to see new players get their start and not really knowing what you’re going to get every year….particularly at the skill positions. And unfortunately sometimes that means you just don’t have the pieces any given year. But sometimes, like in 2021, the players gel and the magic happens.

I’ll be okay if we regress given what college football has become. I’m just looking forward to seeing how Stockton performs and if the team develops a personality.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
3403 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:46 pm to
I hope their fundamentals improve. That was a bad tackling team (by Kirby standards) last year with some very bad pursuit angles that never seemed to improve. Receivers fundamentals were bad as well. Receiving with the body rather than the hands on so many passes throughout the season. Half arse routes or inability to get separation. And the OLine was a huge disappointment. Hopefully just a weird season where nothing ever seemed to consistently gel. And still won the SEC so that is a good result with all of the issues the team had.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
22988 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:28 pm to
I think we’ll see some major staff/personnel changes if UGA misses the CFP in a 12-team format.
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
3140 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

poor OL recruiting


Not sure you can justify this statement. Take a look at the current depth chart on the OL. Of the first string five; Ernest Greene, Daniel Calhoun and Monroe Freeling were all in the top 5 ranked OL recruits in the nation coming out of HS and Micah Morris was in the top 10.

Behind them are some pretty highly ranked players we've brought in the last 2 or 3 seasons; Bo Hughley, Michael Uni and Juan Gaston were all ranked in the top 10, Nyier Daniels was a 4 star recruit and the #2 overall player in NJ and Marcus Harrison was a 4 star OT and the #3 overall player in NY.

If you call all of that poor recruiting, not sure what you think constitutes good recruiting?


Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10728 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:09 pm to
We drank $2.7 in stadium alcohol in 2024 and that can only buy you like 2 players.

An entire stadium drank for an entire season and it only buys two players: That is the regression.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19115 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:04 am to
quote:

if we


If a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its arse every time it tried to jump
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
14738 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:39 am to
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If you call all of that poor recruiting, not sure what you think constitutes good recruiting?



Three starters were drafted in in 2nd and 3rd rounds of the 25 draft and two were selected in the 1st and 5th rounds of the 24 draft . OL performance wasn't for lack of talent.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88686 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Not sure you can justify this statement.


Ok poor OL coaching then, don't think that's debatable. But let's look at our top OL signees going back a little ways:

20
Brod Jones / top 30
Ratledge / top 70
Sed VP / top 100

All top 100 recruits and all enormous contributers


21
Mims/ top 15
Fairhcild / top 50
M.Morriss / top 100
J.Wilson / NR but that's a bit unfair since centers are hard.

All 4 of these guys are/were major contributors

22
Greene / top 60
Bah / UR
Hood / UR

Greene was decent in 23 and horrendous at LT in '24. Probably more naturally suited for guard, but can be a good RT in a pinch. The others were and are complete non factors

23
Freeling / top 40
Hughley / top 100
Smith / top 200
Meriweather / NR

Freeling, as you'd hope, is our starting LT. The others have been nonfactors

24
Calhoun / top 100
Uinin / top 120
Easley / top 200
Daniels / top 250

These guys haven't been a factor at all, but that's not really an indictment on them yet due to their age.


So I mean, sure you can say our OL is "talented" I guess in that they aren't scrubs. But they aren't nearly as highly regarded as their predecessors, to go along with having what by most accounts is an inferior coach to boot. That's not a good combination.


quote:

ot sure what you think constitutes good recruiting?


A 5* here and there would be nice. We used to stack those like cord wood under Pittman and the results bore that out. Lately we're getting one top-100 caliber OL recruit per year which is...not great.

This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 8:40 am
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14094 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:59 am to
Yes, the Sanford Legal Alcohol Consumption Index Gap most be closed with peer schools, not LSU mind you but moderate alcoholic peer fanbases.

The importation of taxed yet still illegal booze in Sanford must be rooted out hahaha..... Only drink taxed and marked up booze for Victory....

Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
7428 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:33 am to
quote:

All I know, when I start feeling the pain of the hurt, I am gonna demand some motherfrickers get fired. I didn’t work this hard reading articles and drinking before games to accept mediocracy.

Funniest shite I’ve ever read on this page.
Posted by gulfportdawg
Gulfport, Ms.
Member since Sep 2012
833 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:44 am to
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
3140 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:35 am to
Fair enough I guess, but aside from last season, in which it was riddled with injuries, has the OL REALLY been all that bad?
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