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re: "How Auburn shut down Georgia and how the Tigers can keep the upsets coming" - Ian Boyd
Posted on 11/14/17 at 10:00 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 11/14/17 at 10:00 pm to djsdawg
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It's more of a fact than a narrative.
It's mostly your opinion period.Lawson was 1st team AA
and SEC and Adams 2nd team AA and 1st team all SEC and both will be playing in the NFL for a while.
So what the reason our O-line was more effective last
year?Home field advantage?
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 10:26 pm to Peter Buck
If you can't beat press man coverage, you're beat. Auburn knew they could get to Fromm and dared him to drop back and throw it long. The way to make defenses pay for man press are release routes and there just wasn't enough time for that to develop. The defensive game plan for Auburn was very sound. The way we beat it on the first drive was good pass protection. That went away on all subsequent drives and so did our chances to move the ball. You can't shoot the horse that you rode to a 9-0 start by abandoning the run game. However, more wild dog and some twists on how we run would have been better IMO. All of the problems from 2016 were back in full focus once we started getting beat in the trenches.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 11/14/17 at 10:43 pm to GADAWG2017
I literally would have thrown a fade to #6 every single play until they moved a safety back. As a coach, I would cum in my pants if you told me they would run press coverage on him every play with no help.
Also, they crashed that read option and dared our QB to run, which he didn’t do... and why the frick did we run delays, when they are killing us shooting gaps all day?
Either way, you can’t be stubborn to your game plan, when they are selling out to stop it... take what they give you and make them pay for their stubbornness...
Also, they crashed that read option and dared our QB to run, which he didn’t do... and why the frick did we run delays, when they are killing us shooting gaps all day?
Either way, you can’t be stubborn to your game plan, when they are selling out to stop it... take what they give you and make them pay for their stubbornness...
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:00 pm to GADAWG2017
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If you can't beat press man coverage, you're beat. Auburn knew they could get to Fromm and dared him to drop back and throw it long. The way to make defenses pay for man press are release routes and there just wasn't enough time for that to develo
Press man works awesome when you can literally start interfering at the snap and not have it called all game. If #6 were white he would've been charged with a hate crime.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:06 pm to Peter Buck
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I literally would have thrown a fade to #6 every single play until they moved a safety back
That was the one club in our bag that we could hit. Barn unfortunately literally shoved him out of bounds and squeezed him outside but it was never called. You can't blame them for playing it that way if they weren't being called for the rape they were committing. The overly aggressive "checks" they were dealing out were part of the reason we started committing the stupid errors with the PF's and leaping nonsense. Crowd noise along with the taunting and getting away with murder caused some sore asses in red and black. We played right into it.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:42 pm to RD Dawg
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It's more of a fact than a narrative.
It's mostly your opinion period.Lawson was 1st team AA
and SEC and Adams 2nd team AA and 1st team all SEC and both will be playing in the NFL for a while.
So what the reason our O-line was more effective last
year?Home field advantage?
Wrong. The stats prove which team is better. NFL draft only proves who was drafted from last years team. 2 very different subjects. Good job on acknowledging the home field advantage though. Better than missing everything like you came so close to doing
Posted on 11/15/17 at 12:02 am to djsdawg
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Good job on acknowledging the home field advantag
Worth 29 point swing?Man has to be the best home field advantage in history.
Once again,are we a better team this year or not?
Better than '02 and it's laughable to believe anything else,correct???
Posted on 11/15/17 at 1:17 am to RD Dawg
1. No, home field alone is not the difference. Just part of it.
2. The stats prove auburn is much improved. You don't want to admit it. You tried to argue otherwise by talking about their former players who are now in the NFL. Now you ask about uga improved or not (irrelevant Answer is yes). Both are irrelevant responses from you.
3. It was a perfect storm game. Momentum also involved. Special teams also involved. Refs didn't help.
2. The stats prove auburn is much improved. You don't want to admit it. You tried to argue otherwise by talking about their former players who are now in the NFL. Now you ask about uga improved or not (irrelevant Answer is yes). Both are irrelevant responses from you.
3. It was a perfect storm game. Momentum also involved. Special teams also involved. Refs didn't help.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 1:19 am
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:18 am to RD Dawg
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Worth 29 point swing
If we're just evaluating Auburn's DL, you might not want to go this route. Or at least take a look at the score and offensive scoring summary from last year's game.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:27 am to fibonaccisquared
I want to say it was 16-7...sans the first drive, we were not doing anything on offense and they drove the ball on us repeatedly, but we kept them to kicking FGs.
They were whipping us, but it was 16-7. It was time for us to punch back. We dropped a ball and had some stupid penalty and kept on trying to do something they were selling out on not letting us to do... right then, I sighed and knew it was over....
That was the difference on this day...
They were whipping us, but it was 16-7. It was time for us to punch back. We dropped a ball and had some stupid penalty and kept on trying to do something they were selling out on not letting us to do... right then, I sighed and knew it was over....
That was the difference on this day...
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:49 am to fibonaccisquared
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If we're just evaluating Auburn's DL,
Yes,just using a simplified sarcastic point to respond to his overly simplistic explanation in regards
to his "home field" expalnation in regards to the difference between the play between our O-line play
Last year and this year.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:59 am to Peter Buck
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I want to say it was 16-7...sans the first drive, we were not doing anything on offense and they drove the ball on us repeatedly, but we kept them to kicking FGs.
They were whipping us, but it was 16-7. It was time for us to punch back. We dropped a ball and had some stupid penalty and kept on trying to do something they were selling out on not letting us to do... right then, I sighed and knew it was over....
That was the difference on this day...
That was exactly what I was thinking at the time: Auburn is simply better in the trenches and unless we do something much more innovative on offense than we have seen all season, we are going to lose this game.
But honestly we were getting beat so badly on the LOS that I'm not sure even Boise St. type creativity would have made the difference. A good example was the blown up flea-flicker play. Our receiver ran right past the defense and was wide open down the field but their front seven was in on Fromm so fast that he didn't have time to get the pass off. I think with more experience Fromm might have realized he was going to have to release the ball super quick but no QB expects the DL to just come straight through at full speed.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:00 am to RD Dawg
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a simplified sarcastic point to respond
You always resort to this when you can't refute a point or two.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:03 am to djsdawg
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Just part of it.
Sure
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The stats prove auburn is much improved
My argument was the D-line talent last year
vs this year and how our O-line performed had nothing to do with the team as a whole or their offense which was obviously crippled by injuries when we played last year and is better this year.
You still haven't answered the question in regards to our improvement from last year to this.Weren't we supposed to be improved from last year?The statistics and rankings CLEARLY indicate it,correct?
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 8:08 am
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:19 am to RD Dawg
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My argument was the D-line talent last year vs this year
Auburns DL is loaded with talent this year and their d is better against the run and rushing the passer.
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still haven't answered the question in regards to our improvement from last year to this.
But I did.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:51 am to fibonaccisquared
We had a scenario like this back in 2003 against LSU. The rematch was uglier than the initial game (which was close). I'm not saying things won't change in a rematch on a neutral field, but I'm not sure how much we can really improve against them. We just matched up poorly.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:55 am to djsdawg
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You always resort to this when you can't refute a point or two.
You made no points at all and cant even answer very easy,direct questions.
Par for the course especially when boxed in a corner.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:12 am to RD Dawg
I made a point about auburn improving On defense and offense and also having home field advantage. I also brought up our costly special teams mistakes, ref mistakes, and how that played into momentum going auburns way.
After that, you weren't able to refute any of them, but I still answered the question you asked anyways, and you even missed that.
After that, you weren't able to refute any of them, but I still answered the question you asked anyways, and you even missed that.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:32 am to djsdawg
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made a point about auburn improving On defense and offense and also having home field advantage. I
Ok,for the NINTH time,my ENTIRE point was in regards to
our O-line vs their D-line last year vs this year which for some reason you fail to comprehend.And you,being your little stalker self had to jump right in with completely irreverent points to try to refute what I was pointing out...it was actually pretty obvious.
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but I still answered the question
"YES but irrelevant" is not an answer especially when it was completely relevant to my point.
I know you probably don't have and where to go or much to do but just ignore my posts ifthat's the best you can come up with.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:45 am to RD Dawg
Overall, Their DL wasnt as good last year. In our game, they were stuck on the field all game long last year due in part to the inefficiency of their offense. They also lacked help from uga special teams and refs, which prevented any momentum, and despite that, they helped hold us to 6 offensive points. SIX.
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