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Whiznot
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GHSA Valdosta & Jake Garcia
Rush Probst is appealing GHSA's ruling that QB Garcia is ineligible. Apparently there is no HS football where Garcia lives in California. It seems unfair that a talented kid is going to be deprived of a season.

I don't like Probst and Valdosta was the nemesis of my old Albany HS but I say let Jake Garcia play. If he ends up being great maybe he'll be a Dawg.


RD Dawg
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re: GHSA Valdosta & Jake Garcia
Agree, there's TONS of shady shite
going on with HS FB in Georgia especially in metro Atl and this kid gets singled out? Because of an ESPN article?

From all accounts he's a good kid,tough kid and it's not like he's a spoiled Mater Dei guy.His old public HS was pretty much made up of a working class kids.

Don't see how he's doing anything
against the rules if one of his parents moved to the Valdosta district.
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Porter Osborne Jr
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Rush Probst is appealing GHSA's ruling that QB Garcia is ineligible. Apparently there is no HS football where Garcia lives in California. It seems unfair that a talented kid is going to be deprived of a season.


Follow the rules and he'd be eligible.


DawgsLife
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Follow the rules and he'd be eligible.


Pretty much my line of thinking. If he does not get to play it is not the fault of the state of Georgia or the GHSA. The fault would lie with the state of California. It's not "shady" when the GHSA follows the rules.


RD Dawg
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re: GHSA Valdosta & Jake Garcia
Please this is the"rule" he broke and the ruling.

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For a transfer student to be immediately eligible under GHSA rules, he or she must make a "bona fide move," in which the "student moved simultaneously with the entire parental unit or persons he/she resided with at the former school, and the student and parent(s) or persons residing with the student live in the service area of the new school."


My God,do we REALLY wanna look into the hundreds of kids and their parents who don't make a "bona fide move" every year? Just so their kids can play basketball or FB at a particular power house public sxhool

WTH does a "bona fide move" even mean? It's a HUGE gray area.


RD Dawg
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It's not "shady" when the GHSA follows the rules


Yes because the GHSA is such a stickler with their rules.

How is California at fault here?


Porter Osborne Jr
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So don't be a dumbass and do an interview with ESPN about how you circumvented the rule. And they found 2 other high profile football players ineligible for the same thing.

I hate it for the kid but they admitted what they did on a national stage and then GHSA found them ineligible. Serves them right.


RD Dawg
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So don't be a dumbass and do an interview with ESPN about how you circumvented the rule. And they found 2 other high profile football players ineligible for the same thing.


Don't disagree and I suppose GHSA has more of a "don't ask don't tell" philosophy.They'd have to hire a lot of investigators if they really wanted to enforce eligibility rules.


Porter Osborne Jr
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They'd have to hire a lot of investigators if they really wanted to enforce eligibility rules.


That's another issue altogether. They don't actually investigate. It's on the school they transferred too to do that. Which is why it's so easy to transfer. Sometimes the previous school will hire a PI and get the job done if they think it was an illegal transfer


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FooManChoo
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WTH does a "bona fide move" even mean? It's a HUGE gray area.
It’s like the word “reasonable”. It gets the point across while not being specific for every possible circumstance.

I interpret it as a move that appears to be legitimate and not simply gaming the system by sending a kid away from his family just to play football in high school with no skin in the game for him or his family.


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RD Dawg
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It’s like the word “reasonable”. It gets the point across while not being specific for every possible circumstance


Agree to disagree and why not use "reasonable?"

And why isn't it "bona fide" to move into a district so a kid would have a better chance to get a scholarship? A free college education is as good as any "bona fide" reason I can think of.


Cousin_Avi
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re: GHSA Valdosta & Jake Garcia
His parents legally separated for the express purpose of his eligibility. Furthermore, they publicly said that the separation was for that purpose. What do you expect the GHSA to do? Look the other way?

ETA - a missing word
This post was edited on 10/3 at 11:36 am


lewis and herschel
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Loose lips sink ships.


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RD Dawg
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His parents legally separated for the express purpose of his eligibility


That's not why he was ruled ineligible.



Cousin_Avi
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What was the official reason?


Porter Osborne Jr
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How was he ruled ineligible then?


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RD Dawg
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re: GHSA Valdosta & Jake Garcia
It wasn't a "bona fide" move.Lots of legalize in the wording and can be interpreted different ways.

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For a transfer student to be immediately eligible under GHSA rules, he or she must make a "bona fide move," in which the "student moved simultaneously with the entire parental unit or persons he/she resided with at the former school, and the student and parent(s) or persons residing with the student live in the service area of the new school."


And there was obviously no need to give interviews about the whole process and I'm pretty sure the parents thought what they were doing was above board.


Porter Osborne Jr
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re: GHSA Valdosta & Jake Garcia
Wait, I'm confused on what you're saying now. What's the reason you believe he was found ineligible?


RD Dawg
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re: GHSA Valdosta & Jake Garcia
The "bona fide" move part.

It can mean a number of things and I'm assuming the interpretation was that the move wasn't made for an employment opportunity or to take care of a sick relative,etc.

The parents publically stated what they were doing before the ESPN interview.Makes no sense unless they thought what they were doing was above board.


Porter Osborne Jr
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re: GHSA Valdosta & Jake Garcia
But they ruled him eligible before the interview and then said it wasn't a "bona fide" move after the interview.
This post was edited on 10/3 at 12:12 pm


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