re: From someone who has been Anti Stetson

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Fromm, Murray, and Greene

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That's pretty good company, and I would not put Bennett in that company win or lose.

I mean, Buck Belue won a National Championship, but I look at him as a very average (at best) QB. Winning or losing a title should not be the sole judge of a QB. It can really skew perception.

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I haven't looked at #'s but I think Stetson 2021 is better than Fromm 2017, 2018, & 2019.

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I haven't looked either...but it's an interesting thought.

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Just checked and this year for Bennett are very similar to Fromm's stats.

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He is throwing more than twice the amount of passes against Bama.
I get it. Bama is built to stop the run but we have shown the ability to get gains in dump off passes to the rbs. Either way he shouldn't throw more than 28 to 29 times.

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You’re going to throw more when you’re losing, you just are. I think he had 15 throws at halftime.

In the second half, once we were down 14 we threw more because of the clock and the need to score quickly. If the D can show up, we won’t need to throw that many times.

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mean, Buck Belue won a National Championship, but I look at him as a very average (at best) QB

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Somewhat of a relative term.He
was actually 1st team All SEC in '80 and '81 and led the league in TD passes in '81.Pretty amazing in Dooley's
offense with HW in the backfield.

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Just checked and this year for Bennett are very similar to Fromm's stats

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I believe Fromm in '12 followed by Fromm in '18 were the #1 and #2 years for UGA QB's.

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Somewhat of a relative term.He
was actually 1st team All SEC in '80 and '81 and led the league in TD passes in '81.Pretty amazing in Dooley's
offense with HW in the backfield.

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And yet went 1 for 12 or some such in the National Championship game. Couldn't get it done in the big game, right?

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I believe Fromm in '12 followed by Fromm in '18 were the #1 and #2 years for UGA QB's.

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Better check again, then. Their stats are similar.

Fromm:
2017 181/291 62.2% 2615yds 24TD 7Ints.

Bennett:
2021 168/261 64.4% 2638yds 27TD 7Ints.

Looks pretty equal to me. Bennett threw fewer passes yet had more yards, TDs and a higher comp. %. I would be willing to bet that Bennett also rushed for more yards.

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And? Not sure what your point is or why you're getting defensive.I was just pointing out his accomplishments and the fact that his legacy is undervalued especially compared to others in the conference.

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Sorry. Wasn't meant to come off as defensive and my sarcasm wasn't necessarily aimed at you. It was aimed at those saying a QB who does not light it up in a title game should be replaced and cannot win that game.

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the fact that his legacy is undervalued especially compared to others in the conference.

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Not really, imo. I was very much alive and had started my career when he was playing. Played HS ball when he was at Valdosta so I remember what he did very well. He was average (at best) in college. Had gotten hurt, we would have still won the title. Well.....that might be harsh. He was a good clutch QB. The cool he kept in the Florida game and hitting Scott was very good. But lets face it. The defense and Herschel Walker made that team go. Lindsey Scott was pretty darn good, too.

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2740/30 TD's/6 INT's/67%

Did you not comprehend my point and I wasn't taking a dig a Bennett

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I didn't take as a dig at Bennett. Maybe you are the one being defensive now? I was merely wanting to point out that if those were the best then Bennett was pretty good, too, then because those stats are incredibly close, don't you think?

I had dug up some statistics for Stafford, Zeir and Murray to make my point, but I realized that Fromm's stats were very close to those, too, so I do believe your point stands. It was probably not the best 2 in Georgia history but pretty darn close. I was a big Fromm supporter when he began to take flack from our fan base, but I didn't realize just how good his seasons were. He was incredibly consistent, although he would have a game or two where he had hiccups. That's not altogether unusual, though.

So I will say that while I don't think it was a top 2 it was certainly a top 3 or 4 season and say you win....and I am glad you win on this one as, like I said, I really liked Jake Fromm.

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I'll be glad to put up Murrary's #'s from '12 as well but you can look those up.

Too bad he was hurt along with
multiple receivers in '13 or woulda had a monster year.

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Murray was underrated, imo, too. Excellent QB, that "couldn't win the big game".

Some fans just can't understand or get that rarely does a QB win or lose a game by himself. But the old saw is true...."A QB gets too much credit when a team wins, and too much blame when a team loses."

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Average" QB's aren't all SEC 2 years in
a row and lead the conference in TD's.Average compared to today's QB's? Sure

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And maybe thta is coloring my opinion. Other than intangibles I can't remember and are in which Belue excelled. I don't recall his having a great arm....or touch...or anything really, other than he ran the offense the way it was intended. he was perfect for the Dooley offense. But you could be right. Maybe my opinion is colored by todays standards. There were not a lot of "throw the ball around" offenses then.

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Sure but Dooley's teams were never centered around a passing game.The only QB that really made a NFL splash was Matt Robinson.Andy Johnson did we'll
but he converted to RB.

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I can't remember any that were. I remember wishbones, and some veers....not many that threw a lot. I just don't think if you put Belue in today's offenses he would be considered average, at best. Is that fair? Maybe not. I guess I just feel like a lot of the attention he got was because he came from Valdosta and then was on a team that won a title. Was he even drafted? I don't think that is a do all be all thing, though.

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I pointed out his '18 season when you listed his '17 stats and told me to "check my numbers again" Just very odd and the reason I questioned your comprehension.

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They still weren't THAT much different, though, were they? I mean 100 more yards? He did throw more TDs (6). Again, his stats are not too far off of the QB who is being ridiculed and pummeled on this board. (Not saying you are doing that because I honestly don't remember which side you fall on)

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IF you look at TD's and QBR,Its pretty difficult to argue against Murrary in '12 and Fromm in '18.Once again,I'm pointing out specific seasons by our QB's

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Okay. That's what I was looking for. Criteria you were basing it off. I wasn't sure if you were going by yards, TD's, Int's or what. I was basing my findings mainly on yards and TD's as for me those are the more pertinent statistical categories, and I'm not even sure if they used those during Stafford or Zeir days.

Any way you slice it, I will give you the point, though. Fromm had much better stats than I thought.

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We all understand but this is the era where almost every NC team has a Heisman contending,first round QB who has to be virtually flawless to win a NC.High standards but it's the era we're in.

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I understand the era, but those are not the best criteria to use, imo. You don't have to have a Heisman contending QB to win a title. I would go farther, by saying that I seriously doubt if Daniels had played he would have been invited to NY. We won't ever know, but that's just my opinion.
I don't think he would have beaten out Stroud, Pickett or Young, and they were going to bring Hutchinson up one way or the other.

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Hey, you made some great points, and i will agree that Fromm had one of the top seasons of Georgia football.

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I also forgot to add that I grew up down the street from
Matt Robinson.

Great guy and probably a better baseball player than FB.Now lives in Jacksonville and does color radio for the Jaguars

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Yeah. Like I said, my memories have become a bit muddled because of all the passing that goes on today. I did not remember that Belue had been named All-SEC and based on stats from today that boggles my mind. But, like you pointed out...it was totally different then.

I do remember that Belue was a pretty good baseball player, too, though.