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re: From someone who has been Anti Stetson

Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:23 am to
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
951 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:23 am to
Stetson has done a lot of great things. He has had great games. Against Alabama in 2 games he is 47/88 with 5 ints and a pick 6. We are not going to beat Alabama with that kind of qb play. Hell we wouldn't beat a lot of teams with that kind of qb play.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
951 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:42 am to
Honestly, people are coming out of the woodworks acting like Stetson is some super great QB. Do you know in both Bama games the score was the exact same 41-24? Do you know in both games Stetson threw 44 times? Stetson rarely throws over 20 passes a game. People seem to forget, it wasn't until Arkansas he was the legit starter. He threw 11 passes against Arkansas.
Vandy - 11/15 1td 1int
Florida -10/ 19 1td 2ints
Kentucky and Auburn 28/41 5tds 0 ints
Mizzou 13/19 2 tds 0 ints
Tennessee 17/29 1td 0 ints
GT 14/20 4tds
He is throwing more than twice the amount of passes against Bama.
I get it. Bama is built to stop the run but we have shown the ability to get gains in dump off passes to the rbs. Either way he shouldn't throw more than 28 to 29 times.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 7:27 am to
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Either way he shouldn't throw more than 28 to 29 times.


He or we?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:31 am to
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To think that those 4 turnovers were not huge and didn't cost us the game is naive.


Huge? Yes. But we can talk about other plays that cost us the game, too. Our DBs got beaten badly 2-3 times that went for TDs. Were those huge? Could they have cost us the game?

Of course they could. And I think that is the frustration with so many on here. You guys seem to want to pin it on one person. Does Bennett deserve some criticism? Absolutely. Did he cost us the game? No. Bennett, the DBs, the lack of pressure from our front DLinemen all cost the game. You change any of those and perhaps we win.

Like I keep saying....one person or one play will rarely cost a team a game.

People need to quit trying to pin a loss on one player. It is, (and in this case)was, a team effort loss.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 11:40 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:46 am to
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Honestly, people are coming out of the woodworks acting like Stetson is some crappy QB.


FIFY

There is a difference with defending a QB who has done well and saying he has done well with calling him a "super great QB". We all know his limitations. Do you know his strengths and what he has done for us?


Honest question. If we had not had Bennett on our team this year, how many games would we have lost in your opinion? Daniels could not have played in at least 5 games, and we would have had true freshman QB back there, that by some accounts (SoFl) has struggled in practice.

Did you forget about Michigan, who has a pretty darn good defense?

20/30 313yds 3TD

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Either way he shouldn't throw more than 28 to 29 times.
I do agree with this. I think we are at our besat to keep passes under 30 or so. I think we are caapable of throwing more, but when you become too pass heavy the defense can sit back and play the pass and that can be problematic with a QB like Bennett. Is he great? Absolutely not. Is he trash? Absolutely not. can he win a title? Yes. For people to argue otherwise is shortsighted.

The big question is...will we win a title with him? Who knows?

What I do know is we have had some really good QBs thta have no won titles, and we have had 1 pretty average QB that has won a title. (Yes, I know that it was a different era) If we could just get the non football people (Not saying you, necessarily) to understand that yes, Bennett was part of the problem against Alabama but it was a whole team problem that cost us the game. Fixing the QB problem (If Bennett were to play a really good solid game) and the other problems remain broken we would still lose.

The pass rush needs to be fixed and the secondary cannot allow the Bama receivers to run free.

Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:58 am to
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When the pocket collapses, he can't escape and either takes the sack or fumbles.

This isn't true. I believe it was against Arkansas where the pocket collapse and JT rolled left and hit Pickens right in the hands and Pickens couldn't pull it down in the endzone.
Posted by Dawgsfan81
Winder, Georgia
Member since Sep 2017
915 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:36 am to
You don't think? Nahhhhhhhhhhhh Kirby puts in JT in the 2nd half to mess with Saban as we win the game.
Posted by GADAWG2017
Member since Jul 2017
518 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:55 am to
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The big question is...will we win a title with him? Who knows?


If we play keep away from Young and play a smothering type defense like we did Friday night… most certainly.

We need to stay away from what Bama’s giving us and take what we need to win the game.
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:37 pm to
Stet is a one read QB, it's on Monken to call it to the WR he thinks will be open. Got to live with whatever results that comes out of it. Monken called the perfect game for Stet last game. They both need to figure out how to dissect this Bama defense.

He doesn't like contact at all, but the rush yards are available for him. He must take positive run plays especially when he gets time in the pocket.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:42 pm to
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Stet is a one read QB


What do you base this assumption on?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17474 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:48 pm to
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What do you base this assumption on?


One of those out of his arse assumptions...
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:00 pm to
Stet is really good at his progressions in the UT game alone his first 10 passes went to 9 wrs.

He also is one of the most accurate long ball passers with one of the longests yards per pass.

These tatds just keep making it up. Having binged almost every bowl game, i promise you outside of young and stroud, stet is the next best option. There is alot of shitty qb play in college football this year.
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:15 pm to
Every single snap vs Bama. We can watch the game and dissect each play.

Time in the pocket and rollouts are not necassarily a good thing for him. He's very good if the hot read is open. If you watch all his bad throws, there's almost always a different receiver open.

It's almost better if you hurry him up from blitzes or from blown pass protection.

One thing I will say is the deep throws were all positives for Stet. Pass interference for McConkey and AD. One deep catch for Pickens.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:24 pm to
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Every single snap vs Bama. We can watch the game and dissect each play. Time in the pocket and rollouts are not necassarily a good thing for him. He's very good if the hot read is open. If you watch all his bad throws, there's almost always a different receiver open. It's almost better if you hurry him up from blitzes or from blown pass protection. One thing I will say is the deep throws were all positives for Stet. Pass interference for McConkey and AD. One deep catch for Pickens.


First, reads and adjustments are made at the LOS that you are not taking into account. Second, I can think of two plays off the top of my head in the last game. The swing to Cook and the wheel to 19.

He fakes it to Cook to draw in the safety and was going to try and throw over him. It wasn't there, so he went back to Cook for 8 yards. The wheel to Bowers was a read on the safety. It was either the post or the out and up. Stet made the right read and put it in the window for a cover 2 defense for a great catch and gain. Those are 2 examples on the first drive or 2.
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:34 pm to
Were not talking about Michigan here squirt. In a normal year they and Cincy would be 7th and 8th in a playoff seeding.

Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:39 pm to
OU usually gets the most embarrased, then notre dame, then some years clemson and osu embarrasses themselves then you have sacrificial lambs like washington and msu....
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:44 pm to
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Were not talking about Michigan here squirt. In a normal year they and Cincy would be 7th and 8th in a playoff seeding


You stated Stet was a 1 read QB. I gave you 2 examples from the first drive last game and now you respond that Michigan isn’t good?

So, are you saying Stet is a 1 read QB still?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17474 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:47 pm to
PB, the count nation can't take facts
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:00 pm to
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If we play keep away from Young and play a smothering type defense like we did Friday night… most certainly.

We need to stay away from what Bama’s giving us and take what we need to win the game.


I can go with this.
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:00 pm to
He absolutely is, that's a non starter. Give all credit to Stet and Monken during the Michigan game.

UGA did whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted on both sides of the ball. Show me the multiple reads in both Bama games good sir
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