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Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:39 am to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:39 am to Spaceman Spiff
Apparently six is correct. The article quoted Blaze, who didn't see anyone standing.
The point is that only a small group were even around when we last beat Florida and that is motivating for most if not all of the players.
The point is that only a small group were even around when we last beat Florida and that is motivating for most if not all of the players.
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:44 am to AllDawgCK
If we break their consecutive scoring streak it would be glorious.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:21 am to FooManChoo
Yeah the article I read was a 247 article that quoted Blaze. I think it listed Ramsey, Frix, and a few others...
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:20 am to RocketDawg
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That was my point. If they beat us with him they can beat us with Franks.
And you are missing my point. Do you honestly believe the supporting cast for Franks is as good as it was for Harris?
Their RBs are not as good. Their WRs are not as good. Their OLine is not as good. Their DBs are not as good. nothing about this Florida team, except maybe QB is as good......and Franks isn't much better than Harris.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:25 am to BranchDawg
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:36 am to DawgsLife
Didn't Harris beat us a few years ago with like 4 pass attempts?
Posted on 10/24/17 at 12:12 pm to DawgsLife
Dude seriously, lighten up.....I agree we should win but seeing as they beat us with a below average QB in Harris I would not assume anything in line of a sure victory. Next time you see a post of mine just keep right on rolling by.
They have lost two games by three points, they have a stout defense, the best we will have played yet and if their offense can find any momentum at all we will have our hands full and yes they recruit studs over there. No to mention owning the intangibles like 21 wins in 27 games and despite what some believe that shite holds water in the space between some peoples ear holes.
Drink another glass of koolaid
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Do you honestly believe the supporting cast for Franks is as good as it was for Harris?
They have lost two games by three points, they have a stout defense, the best we will have played yet and if their offense can find any momentum at all we will have our hands full and yes they recruit studs over there. No to mention owning the intangibles like 21 wins in 27 games and despite what some believe that shite holds water in the space between some peoples ear holes.
Drink another glass of koolaid
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:10 pm to FooManChoo
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Didn't Harris beat us a few years ago with like 4 pass attempts?
No. Harris did not. Florida did. The team around Harris did. they beat us with the running game, not the passing game. If they had come out and thrown 300+ yards, I would say, yes, Harris beat us.
My whole point that everybody seems to be ignoring is that Harris didn't beat us, the team around him did. And the team around Franks just isn't very good. Franks is NOT going to beat us. He has 4 TD passes. two at Kentucky where the receivers were left uncovered, and a Hail Mary against Tennessee.
If this Florida team beats us, t will be the worst Florida team to ever beat us, probably. They have 9-10 players suspended/hurt including their #1 QB, #1RB and #1 WR. Their #2 WR is banged up and might not play, and a couple of key pieces on the defensive side of the ball are gone.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:15 pm to RocketDawg
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They have lost two games by three points, they have a stout defense, the best we will have played yet
Notre Dame's was better. They have barely beaten Tennessee. They have barely beaten Kentucky. They lost to LSU and Texas A&M....neither of whom are very good.
They beat us with Harris only because we could not stop the run. that is what this team does best.
This incessant fear of Florida is ridiculous.
As for their defense? Last I saw it was ranked something like #65....right around the middle of the country.
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No to mention owning the intangibles like 21 wins in 27 games
An intangible is something that has an effect on a game. What they have done in past games has absolutely no affect on Saturdays game.
Florida is worse in every phase of the game than they were last year and we are better in every phase of the game. You guys need to get a grip.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:18 pm to AlaCowboy
GA gonna MAUL UF.
While Kirby's got our players focused on destroying opponent's will to play & succeeding, right now, Florida is dealing with the drama of Mcfricktard's death threat lies. Bc of it, they now have an out to fire him with cause & avoid the $12M buyout. That dipshit gone. Right after our D 3'n'outs their pathetic offense and our O grinds their defense into paste.
Enjoy my fellow Dawgs!
While Kirby's got our players focused on destroying opponent's will to play & succeeding, right now, Florida is dealing with the drama of Mcfricktard's death threat lies. Bc of it, they now have an out to fire him with cause & avoid the $12M buyout. That dipshit gone. Right after our D 3'n'outs their pathetic offense and our O grinds their defense into paste.
Enjoy my fellow Dawgs!
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:20 pm to DawgsLife
Using this logic G-Tech should never beat us.....certainly not last year but they did. And nobody here said Harris beat us in the since you are making it to be. He was the starting QB and he made a significant contribution to the win. More so the second year when he threw over twenty times. I’m not sure about talent and which UF team was better but they have players who want to win and as such they will bring their best effort. That I am assured of.
quote:in football no one player ever beats another team.
My whole point that everybody seems to be ignoring is that Harris didn't beat us, the t
quote:at least all of those suspensions have been prior to season startring and so those players aren’t coming off of the bench to make their first start.
They have 9-10 players suspended/hurt including their #1 QB, #1RB and #1 WR. Their #2 WR is banged up and might not play, and a couple of key pieces on the defensive side of the ball are gone.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:30 pm to RocketDawg
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Using this logic G-Tech should never beat us.....certainly not last year but they did. And nobody here said Harris beat us in the since you are making it to be.
You need to reread the thread, then. One poster certainly said, "Didn't Harris beat us a few years ago with like 4 pass attempts?" So, yes, people are acting like Harris beat us.
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he made a significant contribution to the win.
Not unless you count handing the ball off as "made a significant contribution".
There is no reason for Florida to be on the field with us. As for your GT comparison? the only reason they give us a hard time from time to time is because of their offense...and we have beaten them 12 of the last 15.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:40 pm to DawgsLife
quote:My point was that he hardly threw the ball. No need to get snippy.
No. Harris did not. Florida did. The team around Harris did. they beat us with the running game, not the passing game. If they had come out and thrown 300+ yards, I would say, yes, Harris beat us
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:09 pm to Hobnail
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Cmon man. I’m not even close to being a Richt apologist but this is just stupid
I've known and talked with players from the 60s on to the current team. Dooley, Goff, and Donnan seldom put a team on the field in Jacksonville that wasn't fired up for the game. They may not have always won, but they never came out as flat as several teams Richt took to Jax. 2015 is a glaring example. Richt had 2 weeks to prep Bauta with plays that fit his skill set and look what we got.
Same for the Alabama game that year.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 4:59 pm to FooManChoo
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My point was that he hardly threw the ball. No need to get snippy.
Didn't mean to get snippy about your post. just the guy questioning what I said.
And, fwiw, you were correct/ In 2014, Harris threw exactly 6 passes, completing 4 (I think) for 26 yards. Ha also ran for another 32 or so yards.
I guess I get a little defensive because so many Florida fans put it the same way you did. That Treon Harris beat us. The day 26 yards passing and 32 yards rushing beats us....well, we got a whole lot more to worry about. My thing is....I cannot understand all the hand wringing. Even if Florida had that same 2014 team, I would not be worried. tabor and the rest of those defensive guys are not walking through that door. And, if we are going to win a national Championship, or
win a SEC Championship, then we have quit acting scared. I understand what we feel does not affect the team, but as fans we are acting like a bunch of scared little girls. This team is good. Real good. It is good enough to beat Alabama. (I don't honestly think we will.....but if things fall right we can)
But if anybody even thinks we have a shot to win the SEC, we should at least act like we think we will beat this Florida team.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 5:03 pm to AlaCowboy
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2015 is a glaring example. Richt had 2 weeks to prep Bauta with plays that fit his skill set and look what we got.
2 weeks to refit an offense from a pro style to a read/option isn't nearly enough time. Option is all read and timing. It was a HUGE mistake for Richt to even attempt it. (Although, I think we pretty much ran the same offense and put a mobile QB in a pro offense situation, which is almost, if not worse)
Posted on 10/24/17 at 6:39 pm to DawgsLife
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quote: My point was that he hardly threw the ball. No need to get snippy. Didn't mean to get snippy about your post. just the guy questioning what I said. And, fwiw, you were correct/ In 2014, Harris threw exactly 6 passes, completing 4 (I think) for 26 yards. Ha also ran for another 32 or so yards. I guess I get a little defensive because so many Florida fans put it the same way you did. That Treon Harris beat us. The day 26 yards passing and 32 yards rushing beats us....well, we got a whole lot more to worry about. My thing is....I cannot understand all the hand wringing. Even if Florida had that same 2014 team, I would not be worried. tabor and the rest of those defensive guys are not walking through that door. And, if we are going to win a national Championship, or win a SEC Championship, then we have quit acting scared. I understand what we feel does not affect the team, but as fans we are acting like a bunch of scared little girls. This team is good. Real good. It is good enough to beat Alabama. (I don't honestly think we will.....but if things fall right we can) But if anybody even thinks we have a shot to win the SEC, we should at least act like we think we will beat this Florida team.
I do not disagree with any of this but would add that QB's are both glory hounds and scape goats they get more credit than they deserve and often more blame than they should. I do disagree with the part of Harris just handing the ball off part. The QB does way more than that and one part is to not shite the bed the way some of ours have. Right or wrong teams feed off of their leaders and I remember reading several articles leading up to those games where the gators players talked about having his back and him having theirs . So to me this game should be a win but the team has to show up and respond.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 6:44 pm to DawgsLife
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Treon Harris never beat us....the run game did.
People always want to point out some of those years where we were beaten by UF teams with bad QBs, but people want to overlook the fact that those teams were still loaded with Muschamp's defensive players. Also in the treon harris year it was pruitt's first year here, not that that matters TOO much but it could still be a factor that he hadn't faced them here before.
This is the best team we've fielded in 5 years, and with the way things are going by the end of the season we could call this the best team we've had in 15 years. Combine that with this being one of UF's worst teams overall in a while (they've had awful records, namely '13 [which we won] but still had stacked defenses), and our staff knows completely what to expect.
This is as good as I've felt going into jacksonville since probably 2004.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 7:24 pm to DawgsLife
My point was that if Richt was going to put Bauta in at QB then he should have put in lots of rollouts and and options for him rather than a standard pocket passing game. It was as if Richt didn't even care at that point.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 7:32 am to RocketDawg
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I do not disagree with any of this but would add that QB's are both glory hounds and scape goats they get more credit than they deserve and often more blame than they should.
I absolutely agree with this.
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I do disagree with the part of Harris just handing the ball off part.
In the game we are discussing (That I took exception to) he threw 6 passes and picked up 32 yards.) They ran 66 plays and 60 of those were running plays.
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Right or wrong teams feed off of their leaders and I remember reading several articles leading up to those games where the gators players talked about having his back and him having theirs .
I've played football at a decently high level. That is what players say. You will rarely hear a player call his QB crap. If you do that makes huge news. Why? because it so rarely happens.
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So to me this game should be a win but the team has to show up and respond.
Absolutely. They have to do that against Vanderbilt and, as we saw.....Nicholls last year. My problem is all the hand wringing and worry. This is a bad, bad team. They should only have 1 TD pass thrown all year, and our run defense is our strength. Their 4 best play makers on offense will be missing, and at least one of their top defensive players will not be playing. Add to those their injured and suspended and they have a severe lack of talent and little to no depth.
I have no beef with you, and I probably overreacted. Shoot, I even offended Foo, and I respect him more than just about anybody else on the board.
I am normally very respectful to our opponents, but this is a case that we should beat them be at least 3 TD, are start thinking we are not the team we thought we were.
I've never understood why people allow what happened 27 years ago....or 20 years....or 10 years...or 5 years ago affect the way they look at this years game. We have no players and no coaches that were here 4 years ago.
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