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re: Covid In Georgia - 2021 The Reckoning
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:30 pm to FaCubeItches
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:30 pm to FaCubeItches
With today's numbers, Georgia has officially surpassed last Summer's spike in daily new cases (7 day moving avg).
In the 0-9 demographic, new all-time highs in daily new cases (7 day moving average). Higher than last Summer, and higher than the "Long Dark Winter" numbers.
ETA- Reminder, this is in a state with a 40% vax rate plus 10% of the population has already been confirmed to have had it, plus the unknown percent of the population that has already had it.
In the 0-9 demographic, new all-time highs in daily new cases (7 day moving average). Higher than last Summer, and higher than the "Long Dark Winter" numbers.
ETA- Reminder, this is in a state with a 40% vax rate plus 10% of the population has already been confirmed to have had it, plus the unknown percent of the population that has already had it.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 2:32 pm
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Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:25 pm to deeprig9
I hope that in a few weeks the numbers will steeply decline like they did in England but I don't think that will happen for a good while. Unvaccinated teachers will probably get hit hard. I'm aware of a few school children who've recently recovered from delta. They seem to be okay so far.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 3:50 pm to deeprig9
A few "fun" stats...
Our Elementary school had more positive COVID cases in the first 10 days of school than all of last year.
Wellstar releasing info that from 7/11 to 8/12, cases for children 0-17 are up 1450%...
I have no idea what this is going to look like for the kids, but had to take our daughter to go get tested today and trying to keep her and my wife separate from my 10 month old... Hopefully it's neg, and if it's not, hopefully no major issues... Just wish the school board didn't have their heads so far up their arse.
Our Elementary school had more positive COVID cases in the first 10 days of school than all of last year.
Wellstar releasing info that from 7/11 to 8/12, cases for children 0-17 are up 1450%...
I have no idea what this is going to look like for the kids, but had to take our daughter to go get tested today and trying to keep her and my wife separate from my 10 month old... Hopefully it's neg, and if it's not, hopefully no major issues... Just wish the school board didn't have their heads so far up their arse.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 3:56 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Just wish the school board didn't have their heads so far up their arse.
Please expound.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 3:57 pm to deeprig9
In other news, Dekalb County giving $100 Visa gift cards to anyone getting vaccinated. I should have held out a little longer.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 4:08 pm to deeprig9
What are the thoughts on home covid tests?
The online reviews are split right down the periphery (5* and 1*).
The online reviews are split right down the periphery (5* and 1*).
Posted on 8/13/21 at 4:34 pm to meansonny
Everything I've read from home tests to lab tests is unreliablish and there are multiple kinds of tests people can do, I don't follow all that. False positives, false negatives, etc. I remember last year the official line was you needed two consecutive negative tests in order to return to work etc, because it was known the tests aren't 100%. That's the extent of what I've retained from reading about testing types and results. Hopefully someone smarter than us can come along and break it all down.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 11:19 pm to fibonaccisquared
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I have no idea what this is going to look like for the kids, but had to take our daughter to go get tested today and trying to keep her and my wife separate from my 10 month old... Hopefully it's neg, and if it's not, hopefully no major issues...
I hope your kids are ok. My wife's brother was admitted to the ER today with pneumonia and he was fully vaccinated. Crazy times and I've about had enough of it all.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 12:50 am to deeprig9
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Please expound.
Despite all other metro school districts attempting to create some space in classrooms and moving to a masks required policy (I think Johns Creek got an exception in Fulton initially, but they've since shifted gears as well), Cobb's Superintendent and several board members are sending autoreplies of debunked "Truth about masks" videos to concerned parents, refusing to entertain any discussion on masks, and also refusing to allow parents to change to virtual learning (this would be our last choice after a full year of virtual last year... can't do that to my daughter unless there just isn't a good alternative.) Hell, while students who were in the CCSD last year at least had a choice to pick, incoming kindergarteners didn't even get a choice... and the mask policy was changed after those choices were made.
Additionally, they've deemed it unnecessary to stay away from school after close contact, no test needed, and officially "mask required" for one day though no one can enforce it.
If they made this the policy for middle schools and high schools where most of the kids can be vaccinated, that would be one thing, but there is no alternative option for the younger kids at the moment. Masks may not be perfect, but we do know they are more effective of a strategy than absolutely nothing. While I know that modern teaching strategies like the desks pooled together also, maybe for the immediate future, this would be a good time to pull them apart and try to space the kids out as best as you can... I don't think anyone's asking for miracles... simply for them to at least put some effort into trying to prevent mass spread within the school. As I mentioned before, they had to send the entirety of 5th graders home. I know that in 3 of the classes there were 5, 7, and 8 cases - each of those including a teacher. They'll be home for 10+ days... but they're not asking any of those kids siblings to stay home at all.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 12:56 am to meansonny
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What are the thoughts on home covid tests?
The online reviews are split right down the periphery (5* and 1*).
If it's the rapid home test, I'd say it's better than nothing if you can't get a PCR test in person. There are some home tests where you swab and then send into a lab I think that are supposed to be more effective, but you've got additional delay there, so kinda screwed either way.
Not sure your specific situation... for me, I can work 100% remote as can my wife, so really just a matter of keeping the kids healthy.
Seems like the initial stats have the Moderna vaccine showing better effectiveness against the Delta variant than Pfizer, so glad that's the one my wife and I got at least.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 12:58 am to MacDawg
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I hope your kids are ok.
Appreciate it.
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My wife's brother was admitted to the ER today with pneumonia and he was fully vaccinated
Will be thinking about y'all man. Hopefully they can get him trending the right direction.
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Crazy times and I've about had enough of it all.
A. fricking. Men... I kind of miss being pissed off over trivial shite like UGA starting QB choices.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 9:10 am to fibonaccisquared
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What are the thoughts on home covid tests?
The online reviews are split right down the periphery (5* and 1*).
If it's the rapid home test, I'd say it's better than nothing if you can't get a PCR test in person. There are some home tests where you swab and then send into a lab I think that are supposed to be more effective, but you've got additional delay there, so kinda screwed either way.
Not sure your specific situation... for me, I can work 100% remote as can my wife, so really just a matter of keeping the kids healthy.
Seems like the initial stats have the Moderna vaccine showing better effectiveness against the Delta variant than Pfizer, so glad that's the one my wife and I got at least.
Thanks.
Both of my inlaws are high risk. So we try to take extra steps (a lot easier last year when we volunteered for online learning).
The rapid test would be one more step of caution before going on a visit. With school, we are getting contact trace notices left and right (cross country, volleyball, band... none of which we had last year).
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:10 am to meansonny
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The rapid test would be one more step of caution before going on a visit. With school, we are getting contact trace notices left and right (cross country, volleyball, band... none of which we had last year).
Where are you located? For anyone around Athens, just FYI, Urgent Care of Oconee in Watkinsville has a full-time lab tech and bought the equipment needed to run PCR tests in their facility with results available in about 45 minutes. Have to make an appointment and they're staying pretty booked at the moment, but easily the best option for anyone in the area.
Knock on wood, we haven't received a notice yet. My daughter started rec volleyball on Tuesday and the coach's daughter was coughing up a storm. Total WTF moment for me. Two days later, my daughter has a sore throat and headache. Took her to test yesterday for strep and covid, but negative for both. It just astounds me how folks will go about their normal routines with their kids clearly showing symptoms.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 11:56 am
Posted on 8/14/21 at 12:07 pm to S1C EM
quote:Feels like a bad purchase at this point.
bought the equipment needed to run PCR tests in their facility
quote:CDC Announcement
After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel
quote:shite like this is infuriating. People have no regard for anyone but themselves.
the coach's daughter was coughing up a storm
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 8/14/21 at 1:10 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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Feels like a bad purchase at this point.
Meh.....perhaps. I'm not really sure of the limitations of what they bought, but rest assured, it's getting used right this moment. And it's nice to have results quickly.
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shite like this is infuriating. People have no regard for anyone but themselves.
Yep. And I know it's happening in schools, too. Most of these parents won't bother getting their kids tested because they don't want to "add to the numbers" or they know what it means for their next 10-14 days having to take off work, etc. (or both).
Posted on 8/14/21 at 1:58 pm to S1C EM
quote:It is. Our PCR tests take like 4 hours. I'm not really sure why.
And it's nice to have results quickly.
quote:It's always happened in schools and daycares. Parents load up their kids with Motrin or Tylenol to knock the fever down then drop them off and go to work.
it's happening in schools
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:42 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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It's always happened in schools and daycares. Parents load up their kids with Motrin or Tylenol to knock the fever down then drop them off and go to work.
Oh of course. And it's so much worse with covid, plus RSV and strep now. I get close to just hating people sometimes.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 5:49 pm to fibonaccisquared
In GCSD you can pull your kid out anytime. I did it last semester. You act like you don't have a choice. You do. Also can you please share some of these "debunked" videos the admins are auto replying?
Posted on 8/14/21 at 11:11 pm to deeprig9
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In GCSD you can pull your kid out anytime. I did it last semester. You act like you don't have a choice. You do.
Can I take my child out of school that I pay taxes for, and place them into private school? Yes. Do I want to do that... not unless it's the only good option available. We did remote all of last year at my wife's wishes due to the pregnancy/infant at home but I pushed for her to be able to attend school this year with the understanding that the school had a mask policy in place and would continue to base their decisions on that policy on the best available information. While you may have the option to switch to virtual at any point where you are, that isn't an option in Cobb at present. Even for kids who contract covid and have to isolate, they are not given any opportunity to access virtual learning, despite over $16 million of dollars being spent on the Cobb online learning platform for last year.
Hell, if they didn't want to make the policy for the entire school, they could at least try simple things like getting parents to indicate whether they would send their child in a mask and then group masked children with teachers who mask, and unmasked with teachers who don't... or if class rosters are too hard, even within a classroom, attempting to spread the non-masked from the masked, instead of sitting a masked kid in a huddle of 5 desks with 3 or 4 unmasked kids. You're never going to make everyone happy and I get that, but it would at least not be a giant frick you to the families who have concerns.
As to Cobb's policy, this was the superintendent's response to Ga State Rep, Erick Allen:
LINK
(the meat of the response here indicating they have no intent to allow people to switch to virtual unless their hand is somehow forced...)
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Unfortunately, because of planning and budgeting needs, this required establishing a date by which a selection
needed to be made. I understand the desires of parents contacting your office, and I wish it was as simple as
flipping a switch, as some critics suggest; however, the logistics involved in staffing and financing online and
face-to-face learning programs for 110,000 students are complex and interrelated. Perhaps even more than in
face-to-face learning, providing teaching and educational support in a virtual environment is a significant
undertaking, one requiring months of planning, budgeting, and hiring. Given the school year has already begun,
making significant and abrupt changes in online learning options at this point would likely (and negatively)
impact virtually all Cobb students and teachers.
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Also can you please share some of these "debunked" videos the admins are auto replying?
It's a link to a bitchute share of the Indiana school meeting where Dr. Dan Stock proceeds to make a lot of claims that are unsubstantiated by the sources he cites and/or missing context. Reuters had a reasonably ok breakdown of the problems with it: LINK
The Superintendent and the 4 majority board members essentially have a stranglehold on all decisions for the district it would seem... the 3 others have asked to have discussions on the policy and it's been shut down. Of those 8 people, I'll give you a guess as to which 3 have children in the public schools under their purview and which ones either have no school age children or they place them in private school. (Mind you I don't love the 3 Dem board members either, as they are at least partially responsible for the Cognia accreditation investigation, but the entire board is a fricking mess... so hopefully Cognia can help shine some light on the bullshittery).
Posted on 8/15/21 at 10:15 am to fibonaccisquared
My county does not permit students going virtual mid semester.
Nor do they permit virtual students going in person mid semester.
But it is my understanding that you can withdraw your student at any time and go home school. And vice versa.
The difference is that you are completely removing yourself from one administration and moving to the other.
The school board doesnt mention this because they lose FTE money per student. And home school parents are often home school for a reason (they dont like the local administrations response to bullying, faith, etc..). They dont want those parent back with their complaints.
Nor do they permit virtual students going in person mid semester.
But it is my understanding that you can withdraw your student at any time and go home school. And vice versa.
The difference is that you are completely removing yourself from one administration and moving to the other.
The school board doesnt mention this because they lose FTE money per student. And home school parents are often home school for a reason (they dont like the local administrations response to bullying, faith, etc..). They dont want those parent back with their complaints.
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