re: Covid In Georgia - 2021 The Reckoning

Bottom line, there has been way too much put on masks being the symbol of the fight against covid without even considering the negative aspects. That has been an issue for me

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Do we trust the many many scientific studies, done before covid19 even existed, that conclusively determined n95 masks do not stop influenza transmission? Peer reviewed and published studies. Not BS.

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Does not affect in terms of reduction or is the sole objective "stopping" transmission? Nothing is going to be 100% effective, I think we can all agree with that. The question is, at what point are they effective "enough" to warrant your inconvenience?

I recall one of those studies saying that surgical masks weren't very helpful, but N95s reduced spread of flu by 75%. Again, this boils down to what effect is sufficient enough to elicit compliance and I just don't know that there is a solid answer there.

It reminds me of the 'Terror Alert Level' stuff after 9/11, that Dennis Miller mocked on his new show on HBO by having a chimpanzee wear whatever color shirt the CIA had coded for that day's terror alert level.

Re: Covid

I can understand this is still a topic cuz the only thing that sells better than sex is fear. All the fatties and oldfricks saw their pathetic lives flash before their eyes so they ran out to buy toilet paper, water, food and get the clot shot.

Eh.

More data is better.
But data doesnt change the fact that this spreads like the dickens and is bigger than we can control (the government likes to pretend that we can control it. But with 10B people and even more animals, this virus is going to do what this virus is going to do)

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Would it, though? Those who aren't wearing now probably still wouldn't because of the politicization of the whole thing.

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At this point it might not change many minds. It was politicized from the start, and with the flip-flopping by the experts and the aggressiveness of the media and politicians pushing things that seemed to defy common sense, a lot of credibility was lost in the minds of people who are naturally skeptical.

But, if we're going to get anyone to change their minds, we need to start building credibility in those who are making the recommendations. Instead of hiding behind credentials and forceful language, we need to see some humility. Instead of "the science is SETTLED!", we need "the science is NEVER settled, but here is what we know today..." and then keep the people updated on the good, the bad, and the ugly. From the beginning, it has seemed that politics, not health, has driven the narrative, so we need political decisions to be the result, not the cause of the recommendations and language.

If we can get a "my bad" from the experts and politicians and/or more reasonable expectations and language, I bet many people will rethink their position, especially from those whose decision is based primarily on rebellion against mandates rather than what's best for their own situation. Politics have to be removed from it, though. For instance, many of the same people pushing the vaccine today were saying they wouldn't get it prior to the new administration taking office because it was "Trump's vaccine". The same people trying to force the citizens to comply with mask mandates are throwing big parties where no one is wearing them. Hypocrisy must cease and accountability must be taken by those in authority to earn the trust back. It doesn't help that all those pushing the vaccines are immune from consequences of any negative side effects. If the vaccines are completely safe, those who mistrust them aren't going to be won over by the lack of volunteered culpability on display.

I can appreciate everything you said there. I agree with most of it, though I don’t think those responsible for the messaging can really fix the distrust they’ve already sowed. I think what’s done is done and the skeptics are dug in firmly now.

As for the vaccine safety, it’s as safe as anything we’ve ever put out to market. If you consider the sheer number of people who have all taken it at once, the significant side effects have been infinitesimal. That said, there is always a level of risk in everything. And in such a litigious society, it can’t be surprising that when drug makers are racing to find the means to stop a pandemic, they have some uneasiness about putting their product to market without any protection against frivolous claims. So much of VAERS is made up of people trying to set themselves up for a lawsuit, it’s not funny. I saw someone comment on a FB post the other day (that had nothing to do with the vaccines, btw) how she wished she could prove that the vaccine killed her grandmother. I can take a pretty good guess as to why and it has nothing to do with peace of mind. Too many people make a living off of these situations and these corporations know it. You can’t really blame them for seeking protections. Most restaurants were/are doing the same exact thing when they post notices on their doors stating they cannot be held responsible if you contract Covid in their establishment and die. ALL businesses look for every way possible to mitigate risk and liability and that’s just the way it is.

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Without national healthcare

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never let a tragedy go to waste. the Dem motto

As of today, Georgia has surpassed the 1 Million mark in total confirmed cases since the beginning. 1 in 10 people in GA have had a confirmed case. Add in 40% vax rate. And it's still raging.

Also, children have blown past previous highs of confirmed cases.









you ain't containing shite

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Yup. Everything the federal government touches turns to shite. USPS. DOE. Obamacare. Afghanistan.

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The thing is, the healthcare industry is already heavily regulated. In fact, I can't think of a single industry that's more regulated except for maybe aviation?