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Coley ain’t the guy

Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
3475 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:58 am
Forgot to make my post last week and almost forgot this week.
Posted by Bossbailey34
South carolina
Member since Aug 2018
1700 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:03 am to
Uh oh idiot ozzy Osbourne Jr may try to call you out for this...
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:15 am to
I 100000% agree he ain't the guy but I feel a little better about yesterday after sleeping on it and rewatching. Yesterday in the stadium my main thought was, why in the everloving hell did we go away from what obviously worked in Jax? All season, minus jax, we have run straight up the middle and thrown to the sidelines with no room to operate and looked like garbage. In jax we threw over the middle and ran to the edge and we looked friggin fantastic. Then just 7 days later we abandoned all taht and went back to the norm and looked shitty again. And yesterday was a barely more watchable version of the UK game, just plodding along in boring fashion to a yawn worthy win.

This morning I watched the replay and feel quite a bit different. I think most of the above sentiments can actually be pinned on Fromm yesterday specifically. We moved down the field with ease and went up 7-0. The next posession we're down inside the redzone and on 3rd down fromm tries to throw a fully covered route to someone (pickens?) while swift was absolutley wide open on a little flare route. I mean nobody was within 10 yards of him and you or me could have walked that TD in. If we go up 14-0 early in the 1st people probably think differently about the outcome. In the 3rd quarter we had a TE (can't remember which one) wide slap open streaking into the east endzone and fromm was not only late on the throw but short as well and incomplete. We scored another TD on the great post to pickens that was called back for a stupid arse mental error (on pickens, not fromm) that wasn't a competitive advatnage at all. Last series before halftime he had Kearis with 2 steps on the defender and overthrew him. I mean this game truly could have been somethign like 41-0.

Ovearll I don't like coley (minus the jax version, LOVED that coley) but I don't think yesterday was as much on him as others might.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 11:21 am
Posted by TripleBrass
Member since Sep 2012
746 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:18 am to
Agreed. Fromm and the receivers were off last night. The plays were mostly fine, imo. If they execute just a clip better last night, we likely have another 14-21 points.
Posted by Dr Greg House
Member since Jan 2019
325 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:19 am to
Everything is slow as hell. Even Fromm just walking up to to the line with his hands in the warmer.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39972 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:22 am to
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Uh oh idiot ozzy Osbourne Jr may try to call you out for this...


Nah, he's said this from game one. Don't be a little bitch because you thought you were bringing new info that has been posted 100's of times on here.
Posted by DJuga06
Charlotte NC
Member since Oct 2018
1054 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:33 am to
Gotta agree here. Don’t know if Jake is taking that much time analyzing the defense before he sets up, but it does seem a bit slow....

And just like that, Chad Morris is out at Arky.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 11:38 am
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23985 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:40 am to
Seems like he is locking in on a Target on some plays instead of going thru his progression,but some plays he will find his 3rd option.kinda weird.

Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:45 am to
Jake had Swift open for a TD but threw to a covered receiver instead. However he was not well protected so I blame that on the protection. Two games in a row now I have looked at the scoreboard to see “16”. If we can just turn our FGs into TDS we will be scoring big. Red zone O is the only area of concern for me. Maybe that’s on Coley.
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
3475 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:23 pm to
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WG_Dawg


I agree. To me, Jake has not taken that step forward I thought he would as a third year starter. I don’t know if I would go so far as saying he’s regressed but he’s definitely been “off” and has missed some throws I would think he should have made. How much of that is on Jake and how much is on the qb coach/offensive coordinator?
Posted by Red&Black
Athens, GA
Member since Jul 2013
1912 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

This morning I watched the replay and feel quite a bit different.


Agree 100%. I just watched the majority of the replay and our offense was actually very effective and SHOULD have produced 40+ points but we had several key miscues that you pretty much covered but I'll reiterate.

Fromm had 3 miscues that would have turned this game into an absolute massacre - not hitting a wide open Swift on the 2 yard line, overthrowing Kearis right before half for a sure TD, and then noodle arming the ball to an open Eli Wolfe in the 3rd quarter. We also had a couple key drops that would have extended drives. I must say that Jake also had some absolutely beautiful throws last night mixed in with his mistakes.

Overall, the offense is still underperforming and that is worrisome. However, it looks like we are misfiring on just a few key plays throughout the game that is preventing us from really blowing some teams out/reaching our full potential. I am not a big fan of Coley but he was fine yesterday. I feel good about Auburn as long as we can protect Fromm and don't turn the ball over.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13163 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:05 pm to
Fromm has not developed that way I had hoped he would.
A good example is that lazy throw to Wolfe. Fromm did not release that ball when he should (slow timing) and when he did he did not step into his throw so it came out slow/soft making it easy of the defender to recover.
Fromm also locks in on receivers (lack of vision) which is why he fails to see wide-open receivers like Swift and Cager earlier in the game.
I think part of the problem with Fromm is he doesn't have a strong enough arm to have ball control on deep throws. He just throws it hard as a he can and hopes that the receiver can reach it.
Honestly I hope we can recruit a QB like Fields (strong arm and athletic) in the future who of course doesn't have an entitled attitude like Fields.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

This morning I watched the replay and feel quite a bit different. I think most of the above sentiments can actually be pinned on Fromm yesterday specifically.
I think that's a little ungenerous.

quote:

We moved down the field with ease and went up 7-0.
Thanks to a couple of nice throws by Fromm.

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The next posession we're down inside the redzone and on 3rd down fromm tries to throw a fully covered route to someone (pickens?) while swift was absolutley wide open on a little flare route. I mean nobody was within 10 yards of him and you or me could have walked that TD in.
Here's the play.

The snap is low and takes Fromm's eyes off of the play. When he regains his line of sight, he's got a bead on Woerner who is in single coverage in the end zone, a play that Fromm throws to all day long, except he's normally throwing to athletic receivers who can jump. Woerner barely gets his toes off the ground and the ball is a little off any way due to Fromm having an unblocked defender coming right for him, giving him no time for a perfect throw, much less time for a check down to Swift. If Fromm has more time, maybe he makes a better throw or checks down to Swift. He was waiting for Woerner's route to open up for the man-on-man shot and good defense by Mizzou made the difference.

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In the 3rd quarter we had a TE (can't remember which one) wide slap open streaking into the east endzone and fromm was not only late on the throw but short as well and incomplete.
This is the play. First of all, yes, it was underthrown. Looks like bad mechanics had Fromm throwing with his weight back instead of leaning into the throw. Even so, it wasn't "late", per se, as Fromm was looking for Simmons over the middle first who was running maybe a post route but didn't have leverage. He then went to Wolf who had a couple of steps on his man and Fromm threw it as soon as he saw that. The defender made a good play on the ball and knocked it away. The ball was catchable even if it was behind, but the defender made a play that made the difference. This was on Fromm, sure, as he could've made a better throw to ensure the defender couldn't knock it away so easily.

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Last series before halftime he had Kearis with 2 steps on the defender and overthrew him.
This play. Yes, it was overthrown, but it was also a low percentage play. The ball traveled over 40 yards, had to go past two defenders, and was about 2-3 inches off target to make that catchable. That was unfortunate, but a couple of plays earlier, he threw a very nice ball to Pickens that only he could have caught, and he tried to one-hand it and it fell incomplete. If Pickens doesn't have a prima donna moment, we are first and goal from the 2 yard line and not talking about the low-percentage miss.

To summarize: yes, Fromm made some mistakes. He had some imperfect throws and likely could have given us some more points if he played those better. With that said, Missouri's defense made plays and our receivers were inconsistent with their routes, catches, and discipline that made it that much harder for Fromm (and our offense overall) to succeed. Fromm deserves his share of flak for his mistakes, but lets not be too hasty to ignore context and pin everything on him alone.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Bossbailey34
South carolina
Member since Aug 2018
1700 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:34 pm to
Never said I was bringing new info moron. Some of the fans thought we were turning a corner on offense after the florida game. But you are remedial..sooo
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:37 pm to
To whom it may concern,

Every QB has “a couple of nice throws “
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

Every QB has “a couple of nice throws “
And every QB has bad throws.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:44 pm to
The one that killed me (again) was when we had 75 yards to go with 35 seconds and Coley calls a freaking draw play.

I put this on the level of being 3rd and 25 and calling a screen.

It’s just beyond moronic and every OC should be instantly fired for calling such insane bullshite.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 5:45 pm
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6941 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

Jake had Swift open for a TD but threw to a covered receiver instead.


Swift was a little pissed off about that play.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25556 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

The one that killed me (again) was when we had 75 yards to go with 35 seconds and Coley calls a freaking draw play.


You are nuts. We scored 3 points with 35 seconds on the clock.

It worked. We had the timeout in hand. We had the entire field and entire playbook at our disposal. The draw play reminded the defense that.

FWIW, florida and missouri moved the ball against our pass defense in the 4th quarter with the exact same playcalling.

Try to take a realistic approach when you watch our playcalling. And before you bitch online, save it for the drives that dont work.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 3:41 pm to
Except every once in a while, it works, and then the commentators call it a brilliant play, it gets shown on ESPN highlights, etc. That's why it will never go away.
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