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re: Coaching Changes
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:46 am to Damn Good Dawg
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:46 am to Damn Good Dawg
Cooley's play calling leaves a lot to be desired.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:47 am to Damn Good Dawg
Because Coley is likely to remain play caller , I think kirby will have to look for someone unheralded the same way Orgeron did. Joe Brady was a offensive assistant. Guys like Will Hall and Mike LaFleur are already being sought after for HC gigs and OC positions. It is unlikely they will take demotions in salary and positions to come here
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 9:48 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:50 am to jodeaux
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I haven't seen any connection between Lafleur and UGA
Must mean there's not chance then.
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I think he's on the fast track to being a NFL head coach so I'd be very surprised if he took a job in college.
How's he being fast tracked to be an NFL head coach? He's a passing game coordinator and has only been a position coach for all of two years. Maybe he wants to be an offensive coordinator and wants to make more money. It's not that big of a stretch.
AD said young guy with NFL experience. Who knows. Just like recruiting, things change. But if we were going to hire a college coach it most likely would have happened by now since everyone's season is done besides LSU and Clemson. Do you know who's still in season? The 49ers.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:37 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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How's he being fast tracked to be an NFL head coach? He's a passing game coordinator and has only been a position coach for all of two years. Maybe he wants to be an offensive coordinator and wants to make more money. It's not that big of a stretch.
He could’ve already been an OC. He was recently interviewed for Browns HC job. If we get LaFluer it would cost a fortune, he won’t be here long and would be a huge coup
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:46 am to Dawgfanman
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He could’ve already been an OC. He was recently interviewed for Browns HC job. If we get LaFluer it would cost a fortune, he won’t be here long and would be a huge coup
Certainly sounds like it. He was an OC one year at a smaller college before jumping to an NFL intern. We'll see. It's probably a long shot but not out of the realm of possibilities.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:57 am to MacDawg
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Cooley's play calling leaves a lot to be desired.
The playcalling sucks but the philosophy is worse. It's the old Mark Richt mantra - we have more talent so we are just going to run our shite and you cant stop us. Every good OC in college football spends more time exploiting other team's weaknesses than just playing to their own perceived strengths. Coley showed no capacity to do that at all this year.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 11:00 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:01 am to athenian
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I think kirby will have to look for someone unheralded the same way Orgeron did.
What made this work was that the OC Ensminger is an old fossil with no ego and no care. You think Coley's going to like having some young whippersnapper in his ear all game?
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:24 am to Hobnailboot
First of all, play calling is hard and complex. It is part science and part art. You get better as you get a better feel for it. People at all levels, with pro’s leading the pack, have gone to situational play blocks, where they group plays by situations and down and distance. Being very comfortable with this tool takes time. Some obviously get it better than others. There are a few dudes out there that can do it all or most all in their heads.
I’d say Coley’s two biggest deficiencies this past year were lack of creativity at times in play calling. The other were the plays themselves. I feel like our elite lineman were getting outschemed at times. They were losing the point of attack at the line too often. Though, I will also say that some were just losing their individual battle. Defenses were not “stacking the box”, but they were aggressively attacking the little gaps and winning a lot. You can do this with stunts, formations, and run blitzes. And just winning battles.
One thing that I saw from time to time that made me wonder was receivers running stop/curl/ settle routes while in man coverage. That could be scheme or bad reads by our guys. You really can not know for sure from TV. They need to bring some folks in who can fix this. If people are pressmaning us, we need to have plays to beat this. I think this was a big part as to why the receivers were blamed and maybe it was their fault... bottom line, they were covered too often. Need to scheme and coach to get that fixed.
Beyond that, it doesn’t matter to me. We just have to have people on staff who want to fix the issues.
I’d say Coley’s two biggest deficiencies this past year were lack of creativity at times in play calling. The other were the plays themselves. I feel like our elite lineman were getting outschemed at times. They were losing the point of attack at the line too often. Though, I will also say that some were just losing their individual battle. Defenses were not “stacking the box”, but they were aggressively attacking the little gaps and winning a lot. You can do this with stunts, formations, and run blitzes. And just winning battles.
One thing that I saw from time to time that made me wonder was receivers running stop/curl/ settle routes while in man coverage. That could be scheme or bad reads by our guys. You really can not know for sure from TV. They need to bring some folks in who can fix this. If people are pressmaning us, we need to have plays to beat this. I think this was a big part as to why the receivers were blamed and maybe it was their fault... bottom line, they were covered too often. Need to scheme and coach to get that fixed.
Beyond that, it doesn’t matter to me. We just have to have people on staff who want to fix the issues.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:48 pm to Hobnailboot
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The playcalling sucks but the philosophy is worse
While there is still a lot of changes to be made, I was encouraged by the Sugar Bowl. Granted I haven't watched the replay, but it did seem that we opened the playbook a little more at times throughout the game with more spread concepts, RPOs, and just an overall more aggressive approach.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:56 pm to ugafan426
quote:The fact we only ran up the middle like 4x while throwing more than 4 deep balls too is proof enough we did something wildly different in the bowl game than the rest of the season.
While there is still a lot of changes to be made, I was encouraged by the Sugar Bowl. Granted I haven't watched the replay, but it did seem that we opened the playbook a little more at times throughout the game with more spread concepts, RPOs, and just an overall more aggressive approach.
I HOPE that's a precursor to next season. We'll know very quickly if we see 20 run plays up the middle and a dozen+ 3rd and longs.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:57 pm to Peter Buck
You ever hear of the Peter principal? What if the individuals given the responsibility of fixing the issues dont have the ability to fix the issues.
I'm not saying this is the case but I fear that some coaches may not be able to get the job done from an x and os standpoint but are retained because they are good recruiters and a demotion isn't an option.
I'm not saying this is the case but I fear that some coaches may not be able to get the job done from an x and os standpoint but are retained because they are good recruiters and a demotion isn't an option.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:01 pm to ugafan426
We changed the run blocking a lot on the Sugar bowl. We ran a lot more power and a lot less inside zone (except for the first drive).
I think the power blocking is easier on our tailbacks. They are less likely to make a mistake and they dont have to be as creative to get a decent gain against a defense hoping to take away the run game.
I think the power blocking is easier on our tailbacks. They are less likely to make a mistake and they dont have to be as creative to get a decent gain against a defense hoping to take away the run game.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:13 pm to meansonny
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We changed the run blocking a lot on the Sugar bowl. We ran a lot more power and a lot less inside zone (except for the first drive).
I must say that game was the best called all year by far. The blocking scheme was especially promising.
What I've noticed about the O line is that we intentionally left all 5 in individual blocking assignments throughout most of the year. Not much combo or pull, no layers. I never paid attention but what was the o-line scheme when Pittman was OL coach at Arky?
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:32 pm to Sandwich
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This is strictly about the open position we have.
I admit I am slow and maybe I have missed something. What position do we have open? We hired Matt Luke for Oline Coach. I know we lost a S&C Coach, but I've not seen that position get a single thread.
I know I am forgetting something.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:35 pm to DawgsLife
Scott Fountain (ST coach) was hired by Pittman.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:45 pm to Hobnailboot
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Not much combo
I saw combo blocks. But we didnt communicate or run the plays effectively. Usually, 1 of the blockers climbs up to the linebackers.
We had plays where both blockers climbed up and the DT who got the double was left free to stuff the play.
Or no one would climb up and the linebackers filled in despite the push at the line.
We didnt look coached well.
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or pull
We didnt ever seem to pull. I think guys weren't agile enough. Or Hill would get pushed back a yard and the NT would interfere with the C, pulling guard, and tailback because of the penetration.
That was my biggest beef with the playcalling. Everything was zone blocking assignments almost all of the time.
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never paid attention but what was the o-line scheme when Pittman was OL coach at Arky?
Pittman had the huge and highly rated OL at Arky. We dominated them on defense (3.4 yards per rush. 3 sacks, 6 hurries, and pressured them into 2 INTs).
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:50 pm to dawgdayafternoon
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Scott Fountain (ST coach) was hired by Pittman.
Yes he left and the ideal scenario most are hoping is we let someone else coach ST and we hire and Offensive guru/passing game coord/QB coach.
Basically we need a keen offensive mind and not a ST coach.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:03 pm to meansonny
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We didnt look coached well.
Agree
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I think guys weren't agile enough.
Agree, crazy that's possible considering 2 top tackles. It seems to me this would indicate the problems were primarily on the Interior. Kindley too big and slow and Hill playing out of position.
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