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re: Breakdown of UGA Offense

Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:35 am to
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:35 am to
Do you know what that term means?

Sofl isn't posting this anywhere except for his site. It wouldn't even be a discussion if I hadn't asked what he was saying. There are no clicks to manufacture lol

It's not like he has a website to generate money from clicks.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4539 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:09 pm to
Here's my problem with this supposed "culture" problem on the offensive side. We've played 3 games:

Clemson - Georgia had ~280 passing yds, ~170 rushing yds against a very talented Clemson defense. Clemson has given up more yards than that 3 times in the last 3 seasons (42 games including this year), each time by only 10 or so yards. In other words, if a player on Georgia's team was unhappy with the offensive production against Clemson, they need to grow up because we're not playing peewee opponents or a video game. If some were unhappy with their personal production, that's not a culture problem, that's a me problem and it happens everywhere every year.

Tennessee Tech - The 4th quarter was shortened by agreement. Georgia had 332 yds passing, 166 yds rushing. We punted one time, up 45-0 with the 2nd team offense in the 4th quarter, after a holding penalty put the offense in 2nd and 27. Notice to disgruntled players: Kirby Smart is not going to run 90 offensive plays against an FCS team, nor is he going to onside kick, go for multiple 4th downs conversions or run the entire offensive playbook.

Kentucky - One poor offensive performance with bad execution all over the field. Make your blocks, make your passes, make your catches. And Kentucky knew Georgia's offense forward and backwards because of Vandagriff and Dumas Johnson. So one bad game, on the road, at night, against a very seasoned, experienced defense, and now we have a culture problem because nobody has faith in Bobo?

And last year? 497 ypg, 5th in the nation (4th among P 5 teams). 7.2 ypp, 4th in the nation. Non-garbage time FEI ranking - # 3 offense in the nation.

I'm sure somebody is upset, someone is always upset. They need to get their mind on the next game instead of their personal delusions of grandeur and how they think Georgia's offense should be run. But a "culture problem"? That smoke smells like bullshite to me.

This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:17 pm to
Your bullshite sounds like bullshite. What exactly has Beck shown this year? Watch “The Film Guy’s” breakdown of the offense in that game. Beck looked lost.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:28 pm to
People not getting playing time who think they should get playing time might be upset if guys ahead of them are fricking up. That’s not a culture problem.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4539 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:31 pm to
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Your bullshite sounds like bullshite. What exactly has Beck shown this year? Watch “The Film Guy’s” breakdown of the offense in that game. Beck looked lost.


My post was about the offensive "culture problem" being discussed (I'm skeptical that it exists). I'm not sure why you thought it was about Carson Beck, but if you're interested to understand what I wrote, read the post I responded to and read my post again. Or not, I don't care.

As for Carson Beck, I don't need to watch the Film Guy to know it wasn't a great game. But, I'm certainly not writing him off based on that because he has plenty of other games where he's played very well. We lost a lot (65%) of our receiving production from last year, so there was never any guarantee that this season would start without a hitch.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 11:21 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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19887 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 6:04 am to
Beck absolutely looked lost. KY's defense was in his head and he had no answers for it.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 8:17 am to
He didn’t look lost. He did check down a lot though.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 8:59 am to
Brooks Austin highlighted that Kentucky did a great job disguising and running multiple coverages. That plus several players screwing up a block or a route or a throw lead to the dysfunction.

#11 for Kentucky owned our arse.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19887 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Brooks Austin highlighted that Kentucky did a great job disguising and running multiple coverages. That plus several players screwing up a block or a route or a throw lead to the dysfunction.


And that's why I say Beck looked lost. KY had a brilliant plan.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:23 am to
Lost means you are not seeing the field. Beck seeing they changed coverages and not making a bad read and checking down is not lost. He missed a few reads and made a few bad reads, but luckily his arm strength kept those from being picks.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11344 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:49 am to
Yes, we all know what looking lost means for the QB and Beck was certainly that. Also, he looked disinterested from the beginning shot where they showed of him in the tunnel to the end of the game. Heck, the whole team had it before the game started

He has a great arm but not the leader that Stetson was

HOPEFULLY, they watch that bullshite they put on tape and learn from it real quick
Posted by gothamdawg
NYC
Member since Nov 2015
1266 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:11 am to
quote:


Here's my problem with this supposed "culture" problem on the offensive side. We've played 3 games:

Clemson - Georgia had ~280 passing yds, ~170 rushing yds against a very talented Clemson defense. Clemson has given up more yards than that 3 times in the last 3 seasons (42 games including this year), each time by only 10 or so yards. In other words, if a player on Georgia's team was unhappy with the offensive production against Clemson, they need to grow up because we're not playing peewee opponents or a video game. If some were unhappy with their personal production, that's not a culture problem, that's a me problem and it happens everywhere every year.

Tennessee Tech - The 4th quarter was shortened by agreement. Georgia had 332 yds passing, 166 yds rushing. We punted one time, up 45-0 with the 2nd team offense in the 4th quarter, after a holding penalty put the offense in 2nd and 27. Notice to disgruntled players: Kirby Smart is not going to run 90 offensive plays against an FCS team, nor is he going to onside kick, go for multiple 4th downs conversions or run the entire offensive playbook.

Kentucky - One poor offensive performance with bad execution all over the field. Make your blocks, make your passes, make your catches. And Kentucky knew Georgia's offense forward and backwards because of Vandagriff and Dumas Johnson. So one bad game, on the road, at night, against a very seasoned, experienced defense, and now we have a culture problem because nobody has faith in Bobo?

And last year? 497 ypg, 5th in the nation (4th among P 5 teams). 7.2 ypp, 4th in the nation. Non-garbage time FEI ranking - # 3 offense in the nation.

I'm sure somebody is upset, someone is always upset. They need to get their mind on the next game instead of their personal delusions of grandeur and how they think Georgia's offense should be run. But a "culture problem"? That smoke smells like bullshite to me.



What?? The sky isn't falling????

We've had this type of a game every year for the last few years.
Kirby has a problem getting his team up for the easier games.
But the talent finally comes through when needed (almost always).

I don't think this is a bad set up for the next game. Bama thinks they are humming, and the Dawgs feel like there's some work to be done.

I hope we go to Tuscaloosa and kick their butt!!
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89423 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:19 am to
quote:

wdhalgren


good post. I mentioned it elsewhere but we were extremely slow out of the gates early last year too but ended up having a dynamic offense later on.

-We were only up 17-0 on UT-Martin in the opener and looked pretty pedestrian doing it.
-0-0 after the 1Q against ball state. It was 21-0 with 2 minutes left before halftime.
-Losing 14-3 at half to carolina. Up 17-14 heading to the 4th and ended up scoring 24 total in the win.
-Scorless 1Q against au and tied 10-10 at half. Held on for an ugly 27-20 win.

There are who knows how many reaosons why all of the above happened, but any objective observer at this point would say our offense looks shitty and poses major cause for concern. But then things clicked and the lights turned on.

51 aginast kentucky. 43 agianst florida. 52 agianst OM. Our offense was an efficient machine the 2nd half of the season.

I've gotta think that we're in a similar boat this year. Bama will have an excellent defense so I'm not predicting we score 40+ in our next game, but I think there is very recent evidence to suggest that our better offensive games are likely in front of us.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:44 am to
quote:


Yes, we all know what looking lost means for the QB and Beck was certainly that. Also, he looked disinterested from the beginning shot where they showed of him in the tunnel to the end of the game. Heck, the whole team had it before the game started

He has a great arm but not the leader that Stetson was

HOPEFULLY, they watch that bullshite they put on tape and learn from it real quick


And we all know what confirmation bias looks like.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20202 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

Bobo has lost or is losing the offense players as a whole. They are disgruntled. Beck is in his feels and playing scared. Same with Greene on the Oline. Play calling is bad and the players have been calling Bobo out for it. Bobo is in a no win situation because now he has to play bad guy and with Monken he got to play good guy. The players aren’t responding to the 180 degree approach of him now being an a-hole to them The personnel we are playing we have affinity towards. I.E Yursech, Arian, Truss is not working.



While there may be some truth at some level to this, I am overall calling this as bullshite made up drama
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20202 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:38 pm to
Also, whoever was mentioning stockton…. No clue what you’re seeing. Him throwing the ball is difficult to watch.

Beck’s accuracy issues are horrifying but still hopefully correctable. I don’t see a quick fix for Stockton’s pushing
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20202 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:39 pm to
double post
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 12:45 pm
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15516 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:18 pm to
Not saying he should start, just saying he may be close to taking over/ starting, one hit away.

To the person saying there athleticism is similar is just wrong. Beck has Elway /Brady mobility, Stockton more like Tebow.
Posted by AllDawgCK
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
2513 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:38 pm to
He is nothing like Tebow lol. He is a stockier Stetson
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26780 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Stockton more like Tebow.

Haha no
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