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re: Adam Anderson's attorney asks Georgia to reconsider suspension
Posted on 11/6/21 at 2:07 pm to Dawgirl
Posted on 11/6/21 at 2:07 pm to Dawgirl
quote:What I’ve read as known details is 21yo girl went to AA’s pad after midnight either drunk or got drunk, ended up in his bed, sex occurred, then some hours later she reported to EOO that while totally unconscious/passed out AA raped her/had sex without consent, but then later when interviewed by police she changed the story to “I wasn’t unconscious, I was asleep and woke up during intercourse.”
Is that was she is alleging happened? Or is that you're guessing what happened?
And since then, AA’s lawyer gave a statement where AA emphatically denies rape, claims consensual sex occurred, and points out that the girl has several inconsistencies/changes in her story from what she told OEE to police, and he gives an example of her changing from totally unconscious throughout to only being asleep and waking up during.
And that’s really all we know.
But let’s use some logical deduction with what we know there….
1. Why’d she change the story? My guess is the police surely asked her how she knows AA raped her if she was totally unconscious through the ordeal.
2. But then, if she supposedly woke up during intercourse, you would think AA would then have nail claw marks all over him, right? I mean, if you woke up with some dude raping you, you’re just going to lay there and let him finish? You’re not going to scream or start fighting and scratching and biting?
3. AA hasn’t been arrested or charged, so one can easily assume he has no defensive wounds on him, nor are there any witnesses who heard her screaming, nor is there anyone who’s come forward that she immediately told/reported to that she was just raped. I mean at the very least, wouldn’t you leave the moment you claim to have woken up and immediately run and tell your closest confidant what just happened?
But we know none of that exists otherwise AA would absolutely have been arrested and charged by now. Obviously there’s no probable cause yet that validates her claim.
4. Unless AA is some closet violent sexual deviant, why would he do this? Every interview we’ve seen him give, he is the epitome of respectful, courteous, well-spoken, and humble. He is a known protector of his disabled brother and a huge momma’s boy, and has no known history of any misconduct, much less something of this degree. He just doesn’t fit the mold of the type.
Not saying it’s impossible at all, though. She very well might have said “No” at some point, or just maybe he is a closet sexual deviant. We don’t know yet. All of this, as I said, is just an attempt at logical deduction from what is known. And from what is known, her story has holes and doesn’t really add up. And it’s very VERY telling that he’s not been arrested and charged so far.
This post was edited on 11/6/21 at 2:16 pm
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 3:21 pm to BeefDawg
Bold strategy here. Logic in a completely illogical world.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 3:46 pm to RattletrapDawg
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Innocent until proven guilty right?
The court of law is different from university policy and the court of public opinion.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 3:48 pm to Dawgy49
I want o see AA on the field as much as anyone, but going to someone's house late and having drinks is not "asking for it"
Posted on 11/6/21 at 3:52 pm to FinleyStreet
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Unless I'm missing something a lot of the commentary in this thread are mostly speculation.
You’re correct, we don’t really have a lot of information. From what I’ve read she has a couple of problems. She has related two stories concerning what happened, and it’s probably a he said/she said incident. Doesn’t mean he won’t be charged, but this will make it more difficult.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 3:56 pm to icheerforgeorgia
The recant and her going to his house at or after midnight plus the alcohol are going to make this impossible to ejudicate.
DA punts on this and says there is not enough to prosecute.
DA punts on this and says there is not enough to prosecute.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 4:29 pm to lewis and herschel
Not sure that is a recant and also haven’t seen (unless I missed something) that it was his house.
Was stated she was able to leave on her own and the hours stated was until 7:00am which did make you believe she stayed.
Was stated she was able to leave on her own and the hours stated was until 7:00am which did make you believe she stayed.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 4:39 pm to RealDawg
Any material change from a prior statement is a recant.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 5:10 pm to lewis and herschel
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Any material change from a prior statement is a recant.
Understand why Steve is pointing out the difference in her two different statements but without full context can’t say she recanted as both may be accurate.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 5:24 pm to RealDawg
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Understand why Steve is pointing out the difference in her two different statements but without full context can’t say she recanted as both may be accurate.
How can both statements be accurate?
Posted on 11/6/21 at 5:29 pm to SemperFiDawg
This means he knows nothing will come of it. Lawyer is one of the best.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 5:50 pm to RealDawg
quote:That’s impossible.
can’t say she recanted as both may be accurate.
There’s a HUGE flaw in the first story because while she can wake up at 7am and surely know some kind of intercourse happened, if she’s totally unconscious throughout said intercourse she can’t possibly identify exactly who did it to her. She can only make an assumption.
Which is very likely why she changed the story. Which then destroys credibility and sure makes it seem like she started the whole thing off with a lie to try and explain away why she didn’t fight back, scream, and why she apparently stayed until at least 7am.
We know AA has admitted to having sex with her now, but she clearly didn’t know he was going to do that when she was giving her statements. So being totally unconscious and his DNA being in her is no longer a factor. But her lying makes it seem like this is the angle she was going for… until the cops or her attorney told her it’s impossible to actually identify who raped her if she was really totally unconscious.
I imagine that was a “Oh frick, I didn’t think about that.” moment for her. Hence the story change.
But now, with the story change that she “woke up during” and this is how she can for sure identify AA, a whole new set of holes appear. Like why stay, why no defensive/offensive wounds, why no screaming, etc. etc.
Credibility shot and unreasonable holes… and this is very likely why no arrest so far. Could change, obviously as this is all speculation based on logical deduction, but this is certainly the most plausible rationale thus far from what we do know.
This post was edited on 11/6/21 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 11/6/21 at 7:14 pm to BeefDawg
“We” know very little and have seen portions of her statements.
It is in fact possible to have been unconscious and awake to someone penetrating you. Unless you have access to something that isn’t in the primary news articles, there certainly was no repudiation.
It is in fact possible to have been unconscious and awake to someone penetrating you. Unless you have access to something that isn’t in the primary news articles, there certainly was no repudiation.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 7:39 pm to RealDawg
quote:Uhhhh, I guess we have two different definitions and ideas of what “unconscious” means. And I know mine ain’t the wrong one.
It is in fact possible to have been unconscious and awake to someone penetrating you. Unless you have access to something that isn’t in the primary news articles, there certainly was no repudiation.
So, goodluck with that.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 7:43 pm to RealDawg
Let me just say this.. and this is just, why I think this situation is so weird..
You work your tail off to become a leader of the most dominant defense in the country in the number 1 team, you work so hard to finally become a star and get your chance, your a top 5 draft predicted pick….
You don’t commit rape 6 hours before you fly out to play in one of the biggest games of the year.. you just don’t..
If it happened over the summer and she came forward and it’s been a thing they been dealing with.. ok I’ll say there’s a chance.., but completely out of the blue at the most impactful time.. it’s a little convenient..
I HOPE IM RIGHT!! For Adam!
But if it happened.. again the question is .. Why now??when everything your entire career in front of you..
Just doesn’t make sense.
You work your tail off to become a leader of the most dominant defense in the country in the number 1 team, you work so hard to finally become a star and get your chance, your a top 5 draft predicted pick….
You don’t commit rape 6 hours before you fly out to play in one of the biggest games of the year.. you just don’t..
If it happened over the summer and she came forward and it’s been a thing they been dealing with.. ok I’ll say there’s a chance.., but completely out of the blue at the most impactful time.. it’s a little convenient..
I HOPE IM RIGHT!! For Adam!
But if it happened.. again the question is .. Why now??when everything your entire career in front of you..
Just doesn’t make sense.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 8:13 pm to 3rddownonthe8
And I thought if I said this is a setup I’d look funny. If it is, I say his attorney needs to get the list to be sued made up
Posted on 11/6/21 at 8:39 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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You don’t commit rape 6 hours before you fly out to play in one of the biggest games of the year.. you just don’t..
Is there a good time you commit rape? Bye week?
Not gonna pretend to be in the young man’s head, and we haven’t really heard either side. None of us want to think it is a possibility. I certainly don’t.
The wording hasn’t indicated to me that it was his residence. Under the same logic you can say why would he even be out after midnight that close to a game with so much on the line for him professionally.
Having partied for years with a number of our draft picks (many years ago now), they did the same nonsense the rest of us did and fell to the the same temptations.
I have no doubt we will get some more details soon, especially if they make an arrest. I am expecting other people’s statements to also come into play and the history (if any) between the two.
Too many facts still missing.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 9:53 pm to RealDawg
There is NEVER a good time.. I’m just saying; it’s just completely out of character for him; unless he’s been fooling everyone since he became a prospect in HS. Never one word about character, nothing.. ever.. but now he’s committing rape. It really doesn’t add up this case. If had been someone who’s constantly getting held out for character issues and having issues…
But for someone that there has never been a any hiccup at all..
Also , I thought they said she drive to his apartment at 2 am?? I didn’t think he was out. Could be wrong.
But for someone that there has never been a any hiccup at all..
Also , I thought they said she drive to his apartment at 2 am?? I didn’t think he was out. Could be wrong.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 9:56 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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Also , I thought they said she drive to his apartment at 2 am?? I didn’t think he was out. Could be wrong.
Maybe..I haven’t seen that or exact time.
Been curious how they have said a house and not his house. She was also in a bed before this happened and apparently stayed until the morning.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 10:21 pm to BeefDawg
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4. Unless AA is some closet violent sexual deviant, why would he do this? Every interview we’ve seen him give, he is the epitome of respectful, courteous, well-spoken, and humble.
Smells a lot like REC.
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