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2019 still shows that rushing TDs is imperative for championship programs
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:49 am
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:49 am
LSU led the conference in 2019 for rushing TDs at 19.
I know that the passing game gets all of the flash. But if you cannot run the football when it matters, you will not win big games.
One of the reasons that LSU ran the football so well is because teams have to focus on the pass. And one of the reasons that LSU passes so well is because teams also have to focus on the run.
UGA only ran for 8 rushing TDs in conference play 2019. Despite a dominant defense, we pulled away from no one this past year.
The "how" doesn't matter. We have to be able to get that yard or two on the ground when it matters in 2020.
I know that the passing game gets all of the flash. But if you cannot run the football when it matters, you will not win big games.
One of the reasons that LSU ran the football so well is because teams have to focus on the pass. And one of the reasons that LSU passes so well is because teams also have to focus on the run.
UGA only ran for 8 rushing TDs in conference play 2019. Despite a dominant defense, we pulled away from no one this past year.
The "how" doesn't matter. We have to be able to get that yard or two on the ground when it matters in 2020.
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:49 am to meansonny
In 2018, Alabama led the conference with 22 rushing TDs in conference play.
UGA did run for 17 rushing TDs.
Our biggest weakness in 2018 was linebacker play (Alabama only gave up 4 rushing TDs in conference play. We gave up 13). That was a big area where we were unable to keep up with Bama when they put in a more mobile QB (Hurts).
UGA did run for 17 rushing TDs.
Our biggest weakness in 2018 was linebacker play (Alabama only gave up 4 rushing TDs in conference play. We gave up 13). That was a big area where we were unable to keep up with Bama when they put in a more mobile QB (Hurts).
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:49 am to meansonny
In 2017, UGA led the conference with 27 rushing TDs.
Bama was 2nd with 27 and Auburn was third with 23.
UGAs defense only gave up 4 rushing TDs in conference play (Bama 8 and Auburn 7).
Bama was 2nd with 27 and Auburn was third with 23.
UGAs defense only gave up 4 rushing TDs in conference play (Bama 8 and Auburn 7).
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:49 am to meansonny
In 2016, LSU led the conference in rushing TDs with 23.
Bama was 2nd at 19.
Bama had a better run defense than LSU to narrow the gap.
Georgia finished the season with 8 rushing TDs and allowing 13.
Bama was 2nd at 19.
Bama had a better run defense than LSU to narrow the gap.
Georgia finished the season with 8 rushing TDs and allowing 13.
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:49 am to meansonny
2015, LSU led the conference with 20 rushing TDs in SEC play.
Bama was 2nd at 16. Bama allowed 7 fewer rushing TDs in SEC play, though.
Georgia finished with 10 rushing TDs (allowing 9). Florida took the division with 13 rushing TDs (allowing 7).
Bama was 2nd at 16. Bama allowed 7 fewer rushing TDs in SEC play, though.
Georgia finished with 10 rushing TDs (allowing 9). Florida took the division with 13 rushing TDs (allowing 7).
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:49 am to meansonny
In 2014, UGA led the conference in rushing TDs against the SEC with 21. We allowed 16 rushing TDs, though.
Bama was third in rushing TDs at 19 (allowing only 3 to help win the division over Auburn rushing for 20 and allowing 15).
Bama was third in rushing TDs at 19 (allowing only 3 to help win the division over Auburn rushing for 20 and allowing 15).
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:50 am to meansonny
In 2013, Auburn led the conference with 32 rushing TDs against the SEC. Allowed 15 but still led the conference with a net 17.
UGA finished 2013 for 12 rushing TDs and allowing 20 (I know that fans are complaining about Grantham's secondary for 2013... But when Grantham has to dedicate bodies to the passing game, he loses the battle on the LOS and the run defense turns to crap).
A good Mizzou team ran for 18 that season.
UGA finished 2013 for 12 rushing TDs and allowing 20 (I know that fans are complaining about Grantham's secondary for 2013... But when Grantham has to dedicate bodies to the passing game, he loses the battle on the LOS and the run defense turns to crap).
A good Mizzou team ran for 18 that season.
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:50 am to meansonny
Texas A&M led the conference in rushing TDs in 2012 against the SEC with 27.
Bama was second with 26 (Bama only allowed 8 on the year versus 12 for A&M).
Georgia was 3rd in conference play with 19 (allowing 10).
Bama was able to run all over UGA in that SECCG despite UGA having a very good defense (we struggled to stop the run against teams that could stretch the field with receivers like Amari Cooper).
Bama was second with 26 (Bama only allowed 8 on the year versus 12 for A&M).
Georgia was 3rd in conference play with 19 (allowing 10).
Bama was able to run all over UGA in that SECCG despite UGA having a very good defense (we struggled to stop the run against teams that could stretch the field with receivers like Amari Cooper).
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:52 am to meansonny
There are a couple of points with these stats...
1) It doesn't matter how you run the football. Burrow ran for 6 TDs this season. Justin Fields ran for 4 as a Dawg in 2018. Nick Marshall ran for 12 in 2013. Receivers like Ja'marr Chase, Jeudy, Amari Cooper, etc.. absolutely pull safeties out of the box and impact a teams ability to have success on the ground. A team has to be able to convert with the run when needed.
2) Rushing defense matters. It doesn't matter as much when a team can run for 40 TDs (i.e. 2010 Auburn). But it affects team performance in big games and can make a less capable offense beat a similar but more capable one.
3) There are a few outliers for division champs (poor running teams). Cross-over division matchups, solid defense, and turnovers seem to play a role in who makes it to Atlanta for those situations. Still... the poor running teams get trounced in the SECCG (2016 UF, 2014 Mizzou).
I'm excited about Monken ball. But our offensive line is going to have to play better. Our running backs are going to have to play with better vision than 2019. Our receivers need to have more success reaching and sealing their blocks.
1) It doesn't matter how you run the football. Burrow ran for 6 TDs this season. Justin Fields ran for 4 as a Dawg in 2018. Nick Marshall ran for 12 in 2013. Receivers like Ja'marr Chase, Jeudy, Amari Cooper, etc.. absolutely pull safeties out of the box and impact a teams ability to have success on the ground. A team has to be able to convert with the run when needed.
2) Rushing defense matters. It doesn't matter as much when a team can run for 40 TDs (i.e. 2010 Auburn). But it affects team performance in big games and can make a less capable offense beat a similar but more capable one.
3) There are a few outliers for division champs (poor running teams). Cross-over division matchups, solid defense, and turnovers seem to play a role in who makes it to Atlanta for those situations. Still... the poor running teams get trounced in the SECCG (2016 UF, 2014 Mizzou).
I'm excited about Monken ball. But our offensive line is going to have to play better. Our running backs are going to have to play with better vision than 2019. Our receivers need to have more success reaching and sealing their blocks.
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:54 am to meansonny
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:55 am to meansonny
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:13 pm to meansonny
To be fair, LSU just scored a lot of touchdowns in general.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:26 pm to meansonny
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(we struggled to stop the run against teams that could stretch the field with receivers like Amari Cooper).
We struggled to stop the run vs almost everybody including a horrible UK team and
Buffalo and GT and GSU was even worse
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:30 pm to dhuck20
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To be fair, LSU just scored a lot of touchdowns in general.
Agreed. They weren't pass only, though.
There is a trend of leading the conference and winning the conference. They continued that trend.
UGA needs to run better in 2020. Obviously, a better passing attack will help. But our OL couldn't get us a yard even when we should have in 2019.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:43 pm to RD Dawg
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We struggled to stop the run vs aost everybody including a horrible UK team and
Buffalo and GT and GSU was even worse
In 2012, all of those team had QBs who would scramble on pass and draw plays for yards.
Everyone loves Jarvis Jones for 2012. But a lot of his success was because he freelanced and was aggressive. QBs broke contain all of the time against us.
The Kentucky QB accounted for 52 yards and a TD on the ground.
The Buffalo QB had 83 yards and a TD running.
Tech and Southern are triple option teams running for 67 and 58 attempts each. When you win by 30 in each game, the defense is usually trying to stop the big play first and the cloud of dust second.
I can agree to disagree about the 2012 run defense. It had holes after Abry Jones got hurt for the season (7 year pro). But against conventional offenses, we struggled stopping the run in our nickel defense against downfield threats.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:52 pm to RD Dawg
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GT and GSU was even worse
Look at the triple option this way.
in 2010 (Grantham's first year), GT ran for 411 yards on 71 attempts and scored 5 rushing TDs. Granthan tried to control the A and B gaps just by crashing the DEs on every snap as hard as possible. They weren't quick enough to bust down to the A Gap.
in 2011, Grantham went to his 52 defense and controlled the line of scrimmage with numbers. Tech ran for 207 on 35 attempts and scored 17 points.
in 2012, Grantham again went with the 52 defense. Tech changed things up by passing for 21 attempts and connecting on 10 for 120 yards. We won 42-10. Tech managed 306 yards on 61 rushing attempts.
I understand that we want to humiliate Tech and allow no more than 3 yards per rush. But we were still the third best defense against that offense in 2012.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:08 pm to meansonny
As I showed in a different thread, Monken in 2015 turning Southern Miss from the 112th ranked offense into the 13th ranked offense, was 49% run to 51% pass on an average of 74 plays per game.
That’s 36 runs to 38 passes, with an average of 7 of those passes going to RB’s.
So their RB’s were averaging 43 touches per game.
They scored 31 rushing TD’s, plus their RB’s scored 5 of their 40 receiving TD’s.
Our RB’s, the last two years, averaged 42 touches a game (38 rushes + 4 receptions on an average of 66 plays per game). And last year only rushed for 20 TD’s plus 2 receiving TD’s.
Clearly Monken understands RB’s need to also be utilized and score if you want to win games.
Note that Monken has had a similar run/pass ratio (somewhere between 45-49 run to 51-55 pass) just about everywhere he’s called plays. Along with around 70-75 plays per game (except in the NFL), and upwards of 39-44 touches on average per game for his RB’s.
Too many people seem to have a misconception that UGA under Monken will suddenly be 40/60 run/pass on like 60 plays a game or something, and RB’s will only get like 20-25 touches a game. But that simply isn’t close to true.
That’s 36 runs to 38 passes, with an average of 7 of those passes going to RB’s.
So their RB’s were averaging 43 touches per game.
They scored 31 rushing TD’s, plus their RB’s scored 5 of their 40 receiving TD’s.
Our RB’s, the last two years, averaged 42 touches a game (38 rushes + 4 receptions on an average of 66 plays per game). And last year only rushed for 20 TD’s plus 2 receiving TD’s.
Clearly Monken understands RB’s need to also be utilized and score if you want to win games.
Note that Monken has had a similar run/pass ratio (somewhere between 45-49 run to 51-55 pass) just about everywhere he’s called plays. Along with around 70-75 plays per game (except in the NFL), and upwards of 39-44 touches on average per game for his RB’s.
Too many people seem to have a misconception that UGA under Monken will suddenly be 40/60 run/pass on like 60 plays a game or something, and RB’s will only get like 20-25 touches a game. But that simply isn’t close to true.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:16 pm to BeefDawg
The pace and tempo will also change as we will likely run more plays per game more up tempo.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:41 pm to athenian
quote:Correct. We could very well have less time of possession, but run more plays and score more often.
The pace and tempo will also change as we will likely run more plays per game more up tempo.
We averaged 28 ppg last year on 65 plays and 32:23 time of possession, with 56% run to 44% pass (36 runs to 29 passes).
Monken in 2015 averaged 39.9 ppg on 74 plays and 30:54 time of possession, with 49% run to 51% pass (36 runs to 38 passes).
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