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re: 2016 UGA Recruiting Thread (commits, offers, visits, etc.)

Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:49 am to
Posted by LedDawgK
GA
Member since Jan 2013
1864 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:49 am to
If Big Julian loved Richt and UGA..he's going to HATE Grantham, Petrino, and the fans at Louisville. I hope we don't lose him though, he would be great on that DL with TT and Derrick Brown(if he comes).
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
4498 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:53 am to
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name one great QB that DID play in the SEC


Correct me if I’m wrong, but the SEC has the most current NFL starting QB’s in the NFL (Eli, Peyton, Cam, Stafford and Cutler). If you look at the mix of QB’s, numbers indicate the SEC currently has produced the best starting QB’s.


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These are the top tier QBs in the NFL today. ONE played in the SEC. Name me one good reason why a top QB would WANT to play in the SEC?


Again, the SEC has the most current starting QB’s in the league.

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That's 5 out of 32 and a couple of those are barely starters.


Who? An injured Peyton? The same one who Kubiak assured would take back his job when he returned? Stafford? On pace again for 4,500+ yards? Eli? No. Cam? Undefeated. Cutler? The Bears have no top line talent, yet he has the a game under .500.

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How many of the 32 starting QB's played in the NFL?


Again, the SEC has the most current starting QB’s in the league

What exactly is your argument?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32230 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:55 am to
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name one great QB that DID play in the SEC


Ummmm Cam is up for MVP
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
16517 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 7:16 am to
Tyler Clark visiting UT this weekend.
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
5114 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 7:44 am to
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Tyler Clark visiting UT this weekend.


I wonder how much of this is these guys shopping around and how much of it is Kirby giving them a call, or having one of the assistants still on staff call these guys and say...look around if you want, you may not be a fit for coach Smarts defensive philosophy and there are probably going to be some "adjustments" to this recruiting class.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26774 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 7:51 am to
Guys want a back-up plan.

Bottom line is that our class will probably look a good bit different in two months. Just part of a coaching change.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:00 am to
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Bottom line is that our class will probably look a good bit different in two months. Just part of a coaching change.


I suspect if we lose D recruits with Smart as head coach it might be a "mutual decision".

I also suspect that once Kirby starts hammering these kids we'll do OK holding this class together. Especially if we keep Pruitt.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74671 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:09 am to
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Especially if we keep Pruitt.


I've given up hope on Pruitt staying. Who knows for sure, though? I imagine that around noon-2pm on Sunday, all hell is going to break loose on news for the hires.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61251 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:12 am to
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but the SEC has the most current NFL starting QB’s in the NFL


Actually, we are tied for second. (Better than I thought, though, and that counts Peyton Manning)

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Again, the SEC has the most current starting QB’s in the league.


Again, No.

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Again, the SEC has the most current starting QB’s in the league



Again. We do not. We are tied for second behind the PAC12 and ied with the B1G.

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Who? An injured Peyton? The same one who Kubiak assured would take back his job when he returned?


As much as I like Peyton, he is finished. have you seen him play this year? He is MAYBE a middle of the pack QB right now.

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Stafford? On pace again for 4,500+ yards?


Because he throws the ball so much. He is a good QB, but in the NFL he is still not in the top tier.

Peyton is barely a starter if/when he comes back. My guess is he retires after this year. Eli? No. Not a very good QB. Cam? Seriously? he is not undefeated. The team is. The defense is the backbone of Carolina. Cam doesn't get in the way. Although, he is showing signs of going improving and becoming a pretty decent NFL QB. Don't mistake the record/accomplishments of a team with how good a QB is. I can name several pretty bad QBs that have won Super Bowls, and Dan Marino never won one. SURELY you wouldn't argue that Theisman or Doug Williams were better QBs than Marino.




Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61251 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:14 am to
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Ummmm Cam is up for MVP


Do you consider him a great QB? Top tier? Would you take him over Brady, Luck, Rodgers, Brees or even Wilson? If you were drafting a team today which of those QBs would you pick Cam over?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42959 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:21 am to
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Would you take him over Brady, Luck, Rodgers, Brees or even Wilson?


Yes and yes.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32230 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:38 am to
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Brees or even Wilson?




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Do you consider him a great QB?


I hate the guy but he is playing well. Doesn't change the fact that kids seem him up for MVP and he's from the SEC
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47592 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:06 am to
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Eli? No. Not a very good QB. Cam? Seriously? he is not undefeated. The team is. The defense is the backbone of Carolina.


If you had to win a road playoff game in the NFC, Eli is probably your best option to do it. He takes a lot of heat but he comes up big in big moments.

As for Carolina, their defense is great but they also are one of three NFL teams (New England and Arizona are the other two) averaging over 30 ppg this season. Newton does a little more than "not get in the way" for them.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45516 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:31 am to
Cam is better than every QB in the league this year other than maybe Brady and Rodgers.

He's clearly been better than the other 3 guys you listed.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9123 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:41 am to
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Cam is better than every QB in the league this year other than maybe Brady and Rodgers.


Without their defense, Carolina is a .500 team.

Cam Newton's completion percentage is 57.2%, good enough for 29th, just above Blake Bortles. Cams passer rating is 89.5, good enough for 19th. Cam has 2466 yards passing, good enough for 20th. Cam has 20 TDs, tied for 10th.

If this guy wins MVP or is even mentioned, it has nothing to do with performance. The only reason this guy gets to act like an idiot running around the field acting like Islamic version of superman is because Carolina is desperate for fans.

Carolina's defense is world class.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47592 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:52 am to
I'm not a big fan of QB rush numbers, but he is averaging around 40 rush ypg and has 7 rush TD this season. He's also money in short yardage situations and has been all season. Don't kid yourselves, he's a HUGE reason they are where they are right now.

He has a lower completion % because Carolina takes a lot of shots downfield.

Anyone see their winning drive at Seattle earlier this year?
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 9:53 am
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:55 am to
Leaving rushing out of the equation is nonsensical. He will never put up the passing metrics that the other great quarterbacks do, but the value he adds in the running game is a huge part of the equation.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9123 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:56 am to
He does have 7 rushing TDs. No kidding aside, he is a freak athlete no doubt, but he by no means deserves the MVP. The stars on that team are Kuechly and Thomas Davis.

I saw the winning drive where there was a busted coverage on Olson for the TD pass.
Posted by LedDawgK
GA
Member since Jan 2013
1864 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:58 am to
I see the Recruiting thread has been hijacked to talk about NFL QBs...
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9123 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:59 am to
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I see the Recruiting thread has been hijacked to talk about NFL QBs...


Good point, I forgot which thread I was in.
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