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re: 2016 Football Staff Hires/Rumors
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:40 am to AmericusDawg
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:40 am to AmericusDawg
The position coaches look like stronger hires than the coordinators.
Is Tucker worth a shite, really?
Is Tucker worth a shite, really?
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Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:51 am to WhopperDawg
He knows the defense Kirby wants to run
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:54 am to Crowknowsbest
Didn't he run a 4-3 at Jax?
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:55 am to SneakyWaff1es
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Didn't he run a 4-3 at Jax?
No idea, but he just coached at Bama and has worked for Saban a bunch in the past.
The new DC will run the defense Smart wants to run, whoever it is.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:56 am to Crowknowsbest
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The new DC will run the defense Smart wants to run, whoever it is.
This. Plus he knows DBs and has a rapport built with some of the DB commits we're going after (Warrior and Hardman in particular) so it's a good move as far as I'm concerned.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:00 am to Crowknowsbest
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but he just coached at Bama and has worked for Saban a bunch in the past
I know and I know he would already be familiar with the way Kriby runs the defense and calls plays. Just seems like a very different philosophy than a Tampa 2 type scheme. Kind of makes looking at his years in the NFL worthless.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:04 am to SneakyWaff1es
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Kind of makes looking at his years in the NFL worthless.
Not really. He knows how to run practice, call plays, organize coaches and players, etc. Just because it wouldn't be his own scheme doesn't mean his experience doesn't count here. There's a lot more to being a DC than installing a playbook and calling plays
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:11 am to tylerdurden24
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Kind of makes looking at his years in the NFL worthless.
Not really.
I'm guessing that comment was more about ignoring the stats, given that the scheme will likely be irrelevant. But definitely agree with you that all of the non X/O skills developed there will be of value.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:16 am to fibonaccisquared
Also, just look at that list of teams:
Cleveland (2008)
Jacksonville
Chicago (2013/14)
That's not exactly the most stacked set of rosters to work with. Both Cleveland and Jax have been offensively challenged for quite some time, meaning his defenses spent a good bit of time on the field, pretty difficult to not give up yards if you spend 75% of the time on the field. Chicago maybe a little less challenged offensively, but 13/14 was around the time they started losing guys from the defense due to age IIRC. Also, wasn't Cutler and/or Forte out for significant time during those seasons?
As stated earlier, I just don't know how relevant his stats are from the NFL. Different game, different problems, and it won't be his base defense that's getting installed. Kirby will be hands on. If Kirby is comfortable with him at DC, I'm on board... ultimately, if the defense sucks, that will land on Kirby regardless of who the hire is.
Cleveland (2008)
Jacksonville
Chicago (2013/14)
That's not exactly the most stacked set of rosters to work with. Both Cleveland and Jax have been offensively challenged for quite some time, meaning his defenses spent a good bit of time on the field, pretty difficult to not give up yards if you spend 75% of the time on the field. Chicago maybe a little less challenged offensively, but 13/14 was around the time they started losing guys from the defense due to age IIRC. Also, wasn't Cutler and/or Forte out for significant time during those seasons?
As stated earlier, I just don't know how relevant his stats are from the NFL. Different game, different problems, and it won't be his base defense that's getting installed. Kirby will be hands on. If Kirby is comfortable with him at DC, I'm on board... ultimately, if the defense sucks, that will land on Kirby regardless of who the hire is.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:18 am to tylerdurden24
I think people put way too much weight into the type of scheme coaches have run in the past. they run whatever discipline exploits the talent available to them and competition they play most of the time. Identifying,developing, and motivating talent is what separates most of them
Posted on 1/6/16 at 11:44 am to fibonaccisquared
Are you the same guy that said this same Shiite about the Coach Schittenheimer hire???
Posted on 1/6/16 at 1:12 pm to AirDawg
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Are you the same guy that said this same Shiite about the Coach Schittenheimer hire???
Not that I know of?
Posted on 1/6/16 at 1:29 pm to tylerdurden24
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There's a lot more to being a DC than installing a playbook and calling plays
I understand that but clearly some guys prefer one scheme over the other or they would all run the same thing. I'm wondering if his tenure in the NFL, at least with the Jags cause that's the only team I watched much of work him as DC, is a little skewed because he was running what Del Rio wanted. Maybe it would've been better with his system.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 2:44 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Also, wasn't Cutler and/or Forte out for significant time during those seasons
Cutler was, but that offense was on fire when McCown took over. He was the best QB in the league for those 5 weeks that year.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 3:13 pm to VADawg
Is Tucker confirmed?
Posted on 1/6/16 at 3:17 pm to Broncothor
No
Posted on 1/6/16 at 3:21 pm to AirDawg
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Are you the same guy that said this same Shiite about the Coach Schittenheimer hire???
Decided to dig back through my posts. I was notably absent during the time when Schotty was hired, so definitely not me. I had my reservations about him overall... clearly all totally well founded.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 3:26 pm to fibonaccisquared
LINK Another hire. Quality control.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 3:27 pm to fibonaccisquared
Blaine Miller hired in a quality control position, looks like he was formerly at UAB.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 4:19 pm to fibonaccisquared
Just seems like that same excuse was given regarding roster talent and health...with the emphasis on unhealthy QBs.
Not sure what Tucker's part is with the defense at Bama but his résumé beyond Bama is lackluster. That said I feel like Smart and Schuman will be doing the game planning and ingame adjustments. Tucker may be up in the box calling down the alignments??
Not sure what Tucker's part is with the defense at Bama but his résumé beyond Bama is lackluster. That said I feel like Smart and Schuman will be doing the game planning and ingame adjustments. Tucker may be up in the box calling down the alignments??
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