re: Worst new coaching search ever?

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If I had ANY confidence in our decision makers I might be excited, but the Sumlin contract ruined it.

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Everyone here wants us to money whip a big name but is mad that we used money to assure that nobody would steal away our guy who was the hot name at the time.

TAMU should do the unthinkable... Hire Rich Rodriguez and actually let him coach. If Rich Rodriguez was allowed access to TX quality recruits/athletes + not sabotaged by alumni, his teams would run wild


Put this in perspective, RichRod at UArizona, the trashcan of Pac12 football

- On pace next year to be #2 Winningest UZona coach since 1930 in only 6 years
- 2nd most 8+ W seasons in school history (assuming 2017 8+W)
- 2nd Coach to win 10+W in a season school history

Rich Rod is 42-31

Of those 31 L, only 2 were against teams who didn't make bowl games
19/31 L were against final AP top 25 opponents

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Finish your post.

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Didn't mean to hit submit. Finished now, My bad

RichRod has won consistently at Arizona at levels previously unseen by Zona football, while Pac12 FB has been at its best.

The only blemish on his career is his tenure at Michigan, where he was showing an upward trend even after multiple alumni sabotage attempts

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But this time around many of the Aggies I know IRL aren't looking forward to this search at all. Most know it has to happen if the season plays out how it looks to play out, but without an obvious choice (except a Chad whose SMU career isn't as good as Sumlin's UH career was) and the fact we will have to compete with other (let's be honest more attractive) SEC programs for coaches this offseason means that any sort of dream hire like Chip Kelly is off the table.

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Look, I know I come across as the major Morris pumper on this board but as somebody who probably looks like I've also given Sumlin way more slack than most I just think the bolded is not really a fair claim to make.

Sumlin was given a team on the rise that had already been built up by an up and comer and was primed to take off. Morris took over a bottom 5 FBS school that had been driven into the dirt by a lazy old coach who was just cashing checks.

Houston went 3-8, 6-6, 10-4, 8-5 (Briles did not coach bowl loss) in four years before Sumlin came in. Houston then went 8-5, 10-4, 5-7, 13-1 (Sumlin did not coach bowl win). This was all done in CUSA.

SMU in the 4 years before Morris went 8-5, 7-6, 5-7, 0-12 (JJ quit after game two 43-6 loss to North Texas) under June Jones. Jones last two seasons are when SM left CUSA for the AAC. Morris has gone 2-10, 5-7, and is sitting at 6-2 this season.

Briles was recruiting well for Houston and left Sumlin with players like Case Keenum.

Jones was so lazy when it came to recruiting that he wasn't even willing to leave the SMU campus to go see kids at area high schools and instead wanted them to contact him and send him tapes to prove they were interested.

Sumlin was at a state commuter school that can get anyone in academically and is so serious about improving their team they built a new stadium, new weight room/player's facility, and are finishing out a new indoor playing facility.

Morris is at a school that has donors who openly scoff at their HCs wanting them to build an IPF and is academically stringent enough that there is actually some worry about getting certain players in.

I could go on but long story short, Houston has a lot more advantages and was much further along when Sumlin took over than what was there for Morris when he got to SMU.

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No one else in the country had such a ridiculous buyout clause, or lack thereof in our case, for a coach who has never won a title.

Or have you forgotten the seasons immediately following guaranteed contracts for the previous 2 coaches (2005, 2008)?

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None of that matters. You can't demand that we money whip a coach but then get mad the money was whipped out if the results don't meet your expectations.

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and the fact we will have to compete with other (let's be honest more attractive) SEC programs for coaches this offseason means that any sort of dream hire like Chip Kelly is off the table.

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is this really true? Yes, Florida is a better job and will have their pick before everyone else. But after that? I'm cool with where we stand compared to auburn, tennessee, Arkansas, or ole miss

THE MONEY IS NOT THE ISSUE!! THE LACK OF A BUYOUT OR ANY LEVERAGE BY THE SCHOOL IS.

A buyout should never be more than 1 year's salary.

How many of those were given 6 year deals?

frick it. Let’s hire Les Miles or Gene Chizik