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Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59956 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

If we enter the Auburn game 9-0 with no close games, I will feel better about going 1-2 in that 3-game stretch.


09/05 - Abilene Christian
09/12 - North Texas
09/19 - Colorado
09/26 - vs Arkansas
10/03 - at Mississippi State
10/10 - Fresno State
10/17 - at Auburn
10/24 - at South Carolina
10/31 - bye
11/07 - Ole Miss
11/14 - Vanderbilt
11/21 - at Alabama
11/28 - LSU

Can't be 9-0 going into Auburn when they are game 7.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Gigemaggies123
College Station
Member since Aug 2011
577 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:29 pm to
Beat Fresno state so bad it counts 4 times
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
24695 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 10:58 am to
There are a lot of question marks that will determine A&M's success next year, and Mond isn't even in the Top 3

- What is Elko's status? Without him, going to be a lot harder
- Blades shoulder. If fixed, the secondary can be dominant. If not ...
- New OL. We should have a MUCH different OL next year, as the redshirts should be pushing for playing time with both talent and experience

I'd put Mond at number four. But, on the plus side

- Demas will provide speed and separation at the WR
- Anaias will provide speed in the slot
- Achane provides a REAL special teams threat
- Cupp will be back, so the running game should be WAY better with two great TE's to help out
- all those awesome fish will be sophomores

Now, if A&M goes 10-2 or better next year as expected, there will be a drop-off in 2021, because Elko is going to get a HC job. His defense will be the reason. You will also see some changes to offense after Mond leaves, especially at QB. It isn't a coincidence that both Calzada and King can take snaps under center and don't have to be taught that part of the game
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:46 pm to
Good assessment.


If we are paying Jimbo an obscene amount of money, why can't we pony up for Elko and keep him indefinitely?

Re: the OL. I want to believe that Jimbo was holding the younger talent back to save eligibility, but I also have a creeping suspicion that they are not as talented as advertised, which means we will be even more muh on offense next season.

Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

If we are paying Jimbo an obscene amount of money, why can't we pony up for Elko and keep him indefinitely?

I'm sure we can, but I don't think we should. Have his defenses really warranted such a move? We have yet to crack the Top 25 in Total and Scoring Defense.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

Have his defenses really warranted such a move? We have yet to crack the Top 25 in Total and Scoring Defense.


Total Defense

Sumlin's final year (through his firing) - 60th (388.7 ypg)
Year 1 (through 12 games) - 37th (356.5 ypg)
Year 2 - T32 (340.8 ypg)

Scoring Defense

Sumlin's final year (through his firing) - 81st (28.7 ppg)
Year 1 (through 12 games) - 58th (26.3 ppg)
Year 2 - T36 (22.7 ppg)

Elko reached top 10 in both categories in his 3rd year at Wake Forest.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 11:30 pm to
Those stats still don't warrant a ridiculous offer to lock him in to A&M.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:41 am to
quote:

Those stats still don't warrant a ridiculous offer to lock him in to A&M.


Even when weighed against how horrible our offense is?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
58131 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:04 am to
You definitely have to take that into consideration
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Even when weighed against how horrible our offense is?


If anything, it should be held against him. Our offense isn't great, but it's also not leaving the defense out in the field for most of the game like Sumlin did.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:40 am to
Wait...what? The defense basically won the Ole Miss game and nearly won the Georgia game when the offense couldn't do more than a 3 and out. If anything, the defenses under Sumlin had no excuse because there was no pressure to win the game by themselves.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Wait...what?

So you don't think we should take into account that the offense is built to eat up the clock???
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51790 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:05 am to
Look at the more advanced metrics then.

SP+ DEF
2016 - 47th
2017 - 52nd
2018 - 21st

FEI DEF
2016 - 43rd
2017 - 49th
2018 - 39th
2019 - 32nd
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:41 am to
They still don't warrant "lock him down" money.
Posted by agalloch
Portland, OR
Member since Jun 2015
1647 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 6:10 pm to
LSU is on another level. Doubling down on my agreement with burning the tape. Thank god Burrow is gone next year when we have a real shot at winning something.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62237 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 6:25 pm to
It was lock him down money or let him go. Would you rather have let him go?
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

It was lock him down money or let him go. Would you rather have let him go?

Personally, I let him go. His defenses have not warranted the money he is making at the moment. His stats have never really been impressive outside of one year at Wake Forest.

Should we be paying a DC over 2 Million? Sure. Should it be Elko? No. I'm just not buying his hype.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62237 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:06 pm to
Who you getting?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:08 pm to
More importantly, who would we get that would instantly improve the defense with a brand new system in his first year?
Posted by Ole Ag
Member since Oct 2018
2280 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:32 pm to
I think Elko is the best coach at A&M in a very long time. Get him some real speed in the back 7 & 1 guy with elite edge speed and watch out. The fact that we had solid defenses with what we have trotted out at DE, CB, & S is impressive.

I love that he recruits the best players he can get regardless of geography. There is a chance Jones is the only Texas kid in the 2020 class on defense. Craziness, in a good way.

Pay the man (someone else's $ of course). I'd make a fine liberal.
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