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re: Are we starting to like Klein? What do we need to see to believe he’s the right guy?

Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Warwick
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:55 pm to
my personal take on bye weeks is they are only good for rest/healing. if you cant propery prep for an opponent in 5-6 days, then another week probly isnt helping any more
Posted by BigBro
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:08 pm to
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my personal take on bye weeks is they are only good for rest/healing. if you cant propery prep for an opponent in 5-6 days, then another week probly isnt helping any more

I agree with you in most cases, but in this specific case, I think it will help SC because they do have time to prep for both QBs. Idk if it will actually help SC, but if they had spent 2 weeks prepping for Weigman, they might have suffered a similar fate as LSU when Reed came in the game.
Posted by Ag_16
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:32 pm to
They probably spent the the week prepping for Weigman then after the game Saturday I’d imagine this week is a heavy dose of Reed prep. They’ll be prepared for both options.
Posted by BigBro
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:39 pm to
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They probably spent the the week prepping for Weigman then after the game Saturday I’d imagine this week is a heavy dose of Reed prep. They’ll be prepared for both options.

Agreed. They have a pretty good defense, so it should be a pretty good test for your offense. Unless one team has a lot of turnovers, I'm expecting a pretty low scoring game.

20-16 one way or the other.. maybe even less than that.. points will be a premium
Posted by Ag_16
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:23 pm to
Yeah my biggest thing is we can’t turn the ball over. No free opportunities
Posted by NanosTacoRun
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 8:23 pm to
Agreed. I don't expect they'll be able to move the ball up and down the field consistently. Turning the ball over and giving them short fields would negate a huge advantage we have in the game.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 8:26 pm to
And if our offense struggles, allowing Tyler White to be a huge asset by flipping the field is critical.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:17 am to
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Yeah my biggest thing is we can’t turn the ball over. No free opportunities

Advantage Reed there...no INTs so far, and we don't fumble that often.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
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Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:42 pm to
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I don't expect they'll be able to move the ball up and down the field consistently.

Or maybe they'll march down the field at will :(
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 11/3/24 at 10:49 pm to
Klein really has his work cut out for him while Moss is out. He's going to have to step his game up big time.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:08 am to
Klein did not have his best game... And Reed turned back into a freshman. Some of yall thought we were crazy for wanting Weigman to start one more.

As bad as the offense was, the defense was the bigger problem last week.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:20 pm to
If there is one thing I am certain of it’s that I want us to take a deep look at both the transfer QB and WR market this offseason
Posted by PHLaggie
Member since May 2021
311 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:39 am to
How do you conclude the defense was the bigger problem when the O was shut out entire second half?

That SCe game loss is on Elko and Klein for not diagnosing the issue and finding better matchups. Weigman should have started or at least played a few series even if just to throw a wrinkle at the base SCe D which was keyed up on shutting the run game...and with Reed, shutting the run game made things worse. Weigman's middle passing game would have opened up more plays and loosened up that SCe D a bit.

Live and learn. Coaches got too confident and then got too egotistical to not change at the half. This game will humble everyone that doesn't change to see the reality.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/10/24 at 1:36 pm to
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How do you conclude the defense was the bigger problem when the O was shut out entire second half?


How about both? Giving up 44 points isn’t going to win you many games. And it was very out of character for them considering the next most we’ve given up is 24 to miss st.

Scoring zero points in the second half is bad too, but add just a touchdown to that and that wins us all the rest of our games.

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That SCe game loss is on Elko and Klein for not diagnosing the issue and finding better matchups. Weigman should have started or at least played a few series even if just to throw a wrinkle at the base SCe D which was keyed up on shutting the run game...and with Reed, shutting the run game made things worse. Weigman's middle passing game would have opened up more plays and loosened up that SCe D a bit.


I do agree with a lot of this. I know you can potentially lose a locker room (see Sumlin circa 2015 with Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray), but I really thought Weigman should’ve started. If he’s having a good game, he’s a legit passing threat, we’ve seen it in other games than just Mizzou this year. But a short leash and switch to Reed if necessary. Reed just isn’t a good enough passer yet and we could’ve figured USCe was gonna be better at stopping a running QB than LSU was. Look at how bad Milroe did them yesterday.

Klein needs to get better at exploiting some matchups and mixing things up. Help your young qb find success by making things easier for him.

Scoring zero points in a half is unacceptable.
Posted by PHLaggie
Member since May 2021
311 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 1:44 pm to
The D missed a lot of tackles, just a bad look-- they must not have expected how big the QB was, and that bowling ball RB was hard too. Not being able to stop the run but rather getting gashed had to have been a huge let down mentally.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:58 am to
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I’d say my grade through half the season is probably a B+.


Full season complete, I downgrade to a C-. Not scoring an offensive touchdown vs sips, no second half points vs USCe, super slow start vs Auburn. All not acceptable and concerning that we played our worst ball at the end of the season.

Once we committed to Marcel, teams focused on stopping the run and zone read to force him into a passer, and we had no counter for it. I don’t feel like Klein did a good job of scheming plays up to put guys in better positions to make plays. And calling those inside runs on short yardage situations vs the longhorns when we hadn’t run the ball well all game? Pitiful.

Klein is too predictable, almost every second down play is a run, no matter what we gained on first down or what the defense is showing. Only starts to mix it up if we are playing from behind in a hole.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
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Member since Jun 2015
9139 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:31 pm to
It's apparent he can't run an offense without some variation of a power runner. Once that variable in moss was removed from the equation he was effectively hamstrung.
Posted by JH_32
Member since May 2013
44 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 9:30 am to
I never saw Calhoun make a block worth bragging on... Theo had a few early but somehow faded later.... hoping Platt n D Green get snaps next year and hope the screen game n jet motion get utilized more. Hate that we didn't get Bostick, the fish n the Refugio guy more snaps this yr.... also is Brownlow Dindy hurt?? Fingers crossed for the 2 fish LBs to be bad arse too
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 9:55 am to
Spot on.
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5330 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:28 am to
For a supposedly young creative mind he called a lot of old school power run plays right into defenses that were ready for what was coming, it's not like the defenses were disguising what they were running when we came to the line. They would have 7 or even 8 guys in the box and we line up, in shotgun most of the time (which is also a pet peeve of mine in short yardage situations), and then hand the ball off and try to run between the guards. I guess that works if you have the o-line of the early 90's Cowboy teams but with the o-line we were running out there after losing 2 or 3 starters it is dumb at best and maybe flat out incompetent. Young creative offensive coordinators spread the field out, take advantage of one on one match ups where your guy is better, play to the strength of your athletes, ala KK getting Mike Evans one on one with smaller guys on the outside, I saw very little of that this year. All of that said, even he got the wr's in the right position this year, chances are they'd drop the damn ball.
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