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Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:26 am to AggieDub14
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:26 am to AggieDub14
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I don't think anyone disagrees with you. But it's still police entrapment. Which is morally wrong.
What's morally wrong is taking someone else's property. Period.
I had my bike stolen at A&M. frick anyone who does that. Boot his dumb arse off the team.
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:10 am to TbirdSpur2010
Security footage of Spurs bike being stolen
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:15 pm to Old Sarge
I normally don't wish ill on kids who transfer, but Kyle Allen's inability to start for Houston makes me happier than it should
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:23 pm to agalloch
I'm happy
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:25 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Of course stealing is wrong. I just feel it's also wrong to intentionally put something somewhere hoping someone will steal it so you can punish them.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:42 pm to TbirdSpur2010
True story, my freshman year I actually forgot where the frick I locked my bike. By my senior year, I always wondered if it was sitting in the abandonded bike yard next to the Bus lot. I always wanted to jump the fence late at night after finishing my bus routes and looking for it. 
. I suspect it's long gone by now 
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. I suspect it's long gone by now .Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:45 pm to AggieDub14
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Of course stealing is wrong. I just feel it's also wrong to intentionally put something somewhere hoping someone will steal it so you can punish them.
If he broke the lock and took it, then frick him.
But if the bike was just sitting next to a wall unlocked, how is that different than picking up a lost $10 bill. No seriously, how is it any different? It's not like it was sitting in someone's personal private property. No different than finding a bike on the side of a highway IMO.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:04 pm to Texas Weazel
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No seriously, how is it any different?
Well, it's a bit different. Nobody is likely to come back to where they dropped a $10 bill, else they wouldn't have dropped it in the first place. I mostly agree about the lock: if there wasn't one then I'd think a decent attorney could get the charges dropped, and I don't consider this a serious offense. (sez the guy who has ~$10K worth of bikes in his garage and loves every one of them more than some family members
.) If he broke a lock, though: to the dungeon straight away.Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:14 pm to agalloch
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...makes me happier than it should
No, no. You're doing it right.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:44 pm to finestfirst79
TAMUPD has been doing this for 15 years. 
Why are y'all defending a thief? Is it because he is on the football team? Are we baylor now? Are y'all gonna kneel beside a bike rack before the next game in protest?
I need answers.
Why are y'all defending a thief? Is it because he is on the football team? Are we baylor now? Are y'all gonna kneel beside a bike rack before the next game in protest?
I need answers.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:24 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
I'm not defending him, but if he absconded with an unlocked bike I think this was just stupid on his part, not a serious crime. It has nothing to do with him being on the football team (which by the way he hasn't played a single down for). KDS may decide this was stupid enough to get booted off the team for, and I wouldn't have a problem with that. But with what we know (assuming no lock) this seems minor to me.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:37 am to finestfirst79
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if there wasn't one then I'd think a decent attorney could get the charges dropped,
Which is my point. Is taking an abandonded bike on campus any different than taking a bike found in a ditch? There is (I'm assuming) no lock, no name or ownership information, and has been left in a public area. I really doubt campus PD put a lock on it since no sane student carries bolt cutters on their backpack.
If there was no lock, cut the guy a break. Whatever happened to "Finders keepers, losers weepers"?
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:38 am to finestfirst79
Suppose he got away with just a slap on the wrist...
What if the next time he's walking across campus he sees an unlocked car with the keys in it and decides to borrow it to get to class?
Obviously this guy is now a character risk. Do we really want to risk something worse happening?
What if the next time he's walking across campus he sees an unlocked car with the keys in it and decides to borrow it to get to class?
Obviously this guy is now a character risk. Do we really want to risk something worse happening?
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:50 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
I don't like the "What if" game. What if he planned on returning the bike but got busted first? I mostly agree with your "character risk" assessment, though. This was at best a very stupid move. I just can't force myself to get too worked up about it, particularly since it was a setup job by the PD.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 7:42 am to finestfirst79
Didnt he have some kind of issue in high school as well? Maybe im thinking of someone else
Posted on 10/20/17 at 7:48 am to finestfirst79
I think for the stupid entrapment bikes the threshold should be that you have to give it 6 hours for the bike to be returned before you arrest and call it theft. If it was returned to the bike rack it came from within six hours then it's a simple $50 fine like a jaywalking ticket
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:07 am to AggieDub14
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it's also wrong to intentionally put something somewhere hoping someone will steal it so you can punish them.
Punishment that can be oh so easily avoided if you--guess what? DON'T TAKE SOMEONE ELSE'S shite.
It'd be one thing if they were forcing or tricking people into taking the bikes. Putting signs on them that say "take me for a ride-I'm free!" and then busting people.
Nah. Dumbasses who fall for bait bikes are the same people who would steal a regular bike from a regular student and get away with it. Nobody can bait you into being a theif. You choose to do that shite. Come on now.
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:11 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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Why are y'all defending a thief?
It's so weird. Some of the same people who preach the Aggie Honor Code turn around and are like "ehhhhh whaddayagonnado?" when an Aggie gets busted actually stealing
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:30 am to TbirdSpur2010
Again, no one is arguing that. You continue to jump back to the theif when I'm talking about the actions of TAMUPD.
Not a single person here has defended a theif.
Not a single person here has defended a theif.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 8:31 am
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:31 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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kneel beside a bike rack
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