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re: Zach Evans delays commitment again

Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by Dixie Normus
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:51 pm to
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1) Proof of cheating would be pretty difficult to produce given how things generally go these days... otherwise more programs would be getting brought down

2) Any athlete who wanted to try this approach would likely be signing their own ineligibility case fate at the same time...


You clearly have never heard of Leo Lewis.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:07 am to
... as I said. There are a lot of options prior to this route for getting out of an LOI.

Wasn't he basically forced/pressured into testifying? He was already at the different school, so he didn't need anything from Ole Miss, certainly not a release from his LOI.

And even still didn't they have a hard time corroborating his "proof"? We're it not for the fact that they were already under suspicion, not sure that would have played out the same.
Posted by Whens lunch
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:01 am to
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UGA reportedly still wants him, so I doubt they void the LOI over bombing the ACT. I recall Pickens having more grade issues than Evans, but maybe Evans' circus of a recruitment was to cover up his grade issues.



Georgia's gonna have to work to keep this kid if they want him.

From the National Letter of Intent website:

quote:

You should sign your NLI in duplicate. Once you have signed it twice, retain one copy of the signed NLI for your records. You should send the other copy back to the institution. When the institution receives it, they are responsible for forwarding a copy to their conference office. The institution must file your NLI with its conference within 14 days after the date of final signature. If this filing deadline is not met, the letter will be declared invalid.




Did Georgia file the NLI with the conference...doesn't appear that they did. We'd all know it.

So, if the NLI became invalid, then Evans is trying to get "coaches to see him as a good kid that made a mistake" (UA Game interview). His recruitment may be open. Maybe his plea was just to Georgia, who knows.
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:14 am to
He was removed from the team for failing to follow team rules the night before his high school championship game. Before you idiots start blaming the coach, who is a well respected coach with a great record, his ejection was with the approval and support from this kids high school principal and his school district superintendent. He is a major head case of arrogance and ignorance.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:32 am to
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Before you idiots start blaming the coach,


He is an idiot with terrible discretion. So glad Evans can get away from that trash.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:34 am to
It was said he wants to open his recruitment back up and many unhappy with the way things have played out the last month.

If he did send in his letter of intent, I do not see how that could be done.

Rarely does the NCAA void a letter, it has happened.
Posted by Whens lunch
San Antonio
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:40 am to
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If he did send in his letter of intent, I do not see how that could be done.

Rarely does the NCAA void a letter, it has happened.



If Georgia did not file the NLI with the Conference within 14 days it became invalid.

Evans may very well be a "free agent", albeit one with baggage and questionable qualification.

This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 11:48 am
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:09 pm to
bullshite..his head coach has an incredible record as a head coach...is a past Houston area coach of the year..has sent many, many players to the next level on scholarships. So you’re taking the side of a spoiled idiot against a well respected coach, a principal of a 6A school with an enrollment of thousands, and the superintendent? Wow..shows an incredible level blindness on your part.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:52 pm to
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Did Georgia file the NLI with the conference...doesn't appear that they did. We'd all know it.

So, if the NLI became invalid, then Evans is trying to get "coaches to see him as a good kid that made a mistake" (UA Game interview). His recruitment may be open. Maybe his plea was just to Georgia, who knows.



Except we know UGA has his LOI. He's said it and every 247 mod has reported it. Why would UGA sit on it? If he doesn't end up at UGA I hope he goes to a&m so UGA won't have to play him. Kid is insanely talented and UGA won't go to College Station for a while.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Whens lunch
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:59 pm to
If Georgia files Evans NLI and he doesn't qualify, they lose that scholly. Better to wait until they are more assured he will qualify.

Waiting however leaves Evans, while possibly still very committed to Georgia, vulnerable to a flip at a later date.
Posted by atlanta917
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Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:02 pm to
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If Georgia files Evans NLI and he doesn't qualify

Its been reported grades aren't the issue, so why would they be worried about him qualifying? Evans already picked UGA over the other schools twice now, so not sure how worried they'd be about him flipping. If the rumors are true he wants out then Kirby should let him go to a&m or somewhere outside the SEC. UGA plays Bama next year and could possible see LSU in the SECC in the future.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Did Georgia file the NLI with the conference...doesn't appear that they did. We'd all know it.

Why would we all know it? We have several players that are announcing at the All American bowls that have signed but not announced.

Kellee Ringo, Darnell Washington and Evans for three.

Washington announced last night and Ringo expected tomorrow. Nobody can say for sure, but that si the way it looks.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:35 pm to
You do realize that Evans played in an All-Star game last night and didn't announce. Is there another all-star game he's playing in that we weren't aware of?
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:35 pm to
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Is there another all-star game he's playing in that we weren't aware of?

I wasn't aware recruits were required to announce at all-star games. Wonder what the uncommitted kids will do now...
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 1:36 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:43 pm to
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You do realize that Evans played in an All-Star game last night and didn't announce. Is there another all-star game he's playing in that we weren't aware of?




I am aware. How does that affect anything in my post?

Evans still could have signed and not announced...and we still might not know it. Just because the plan was originally to announce at the All Star game, it doesn't not mean that it has to be made there.

An announcement means nothing. It does not make something official. the LOI does. If the LOI is signed then a recruit can keep it a secret or can announce at his discretion.

I don't know if he signed with Georgia, A&M or LSU or Hawaii. I do know that when he announces does not affect it one iota.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 4:01 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:43 pm to
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I wasn't aware recruits were required to announce at all-star games. Wonder what the uncommitted kids will do now...

Exactly.
Posted by Whens lunch
San Antonio
Member since Oct 2012
558 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:06 pm to
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Its been reported grades aren't the issue,


I don't know what the issue is. I'm spitballing like everyone else, except I'm bringing in NLI filing requirements.

I don't know what Evans grades are, but I believe there has to be a qualifying SAT or ACT.

Evans intended to be an EE. He took the ACT during the first half of the Semifinals..not a good sign. That result as you know would have been available in about two weeks. That's plenty of time for Georgia to get the result and file the NLI. If he was still trying to get a qualifying score. Maybe he didn't.

You seem to be informed regarding his academic standing, that may include his latest ACT. I'll certainly defer to anyone who has any facts whatsoever.

Maybe Georgia has some questions about his character after the cell phone issue that led to his not playing in the state championship game. So his offer became uncommittable until they got more information.



With respect DawgsLife comment on why would we know if Evans NLI was filed when other recruits status is still up in the air... Good point, and well taken, by the way.

What's the big secret? Whose secret is it anyway? Evans, who seemed to be pleading for some coach to want him? Or Georgia's? What would Georgia want secret here?
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:11 pm to
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What's the big secret? Whose secret is it anyway? Evans, who seemed to be pleading for some coach to want him? Or Georgia's? What would Georgia want secret here?

Most logical scenarios are either he doesn’t want UGA or UGA doesn’t want him. If he wanted out I didn’t know why he wouldn’t put the pressure on Kirby and publicly state that. In the event he doesn’t come to UGA I hope y’all get him or someone outside the SEC. kid is talented, but the drama seems never ending. Would be nice to have him with swift leaving, but UGA already has Milton, Zamir, Cook, and McIntosh. Not really hurting for backs at this point.
Posted by Whens lunch
San Antonio
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 3:56 pm to
In the event he doesn’t come to UGA I hope y’all get him or someone outside the SEC.

We could definitely use him. Our RB room has been decimated, but this is a North Shore kid and they all lean LSU. I don't know how even Georgia swayed him.

He's a shy kid that really needs some mature guidance. I think if he got it, he'd bust his butt for that person.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58920 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 4:08 pm to
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What's the big secret? Whose secret is it anyway? Evans, who seemed to be pleading for some coach to want him? Or Georgia's? What would Georgia want secret here?


It would be his secret. he apparently loves the attention all of this brings him, and wants a big announcement. It really speaks to an awful lot of insecurities, to me, but kids are kids, I guess.

If he signed with Georgia I would guess we could care less if it is announced to the world. It is typically the kids call so he can make some big world altering announcement. *They usually have no clue that 99% of the world could care less about the announcement...and when you have a recruitment like his some of the people that cared at one time quit caring and just wants it to be over.)

Georgia would have no reason for it to be a secret. it can only be driven by the recruit when an announcement is made. Obviously a school could make the announcement or leak it....but why would a school start the relationship off on a sour note? Just let the kid have his big day and drive on.
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