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armtackledawg
Georgia Fan
Member since Aug 2017
5142 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
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Absolutely pitiful class.


Y'all have got to get rid of Muschamp this year. The wheels are completely off.


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Lonnie Utah
Citadel Fan
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
10205 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
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Absolutely pitiful class.



With this year not costing any athlete any eligibility, does an off class really hurt SC? I mean, who do we have on this team that will go early? This is a redshirt year for everyone. We still have to manage 85 schollies.

For teams like UGA, Bama and Clemson where guys leave early, I can see it making a difference. Not for SC.


Freon
South Carolina Fan
Sah Kurlahna
Member since Dec 2018
418 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
If we clean house now that costs us Stockton and probably all the rest of the talent on the roster. Unfortunately I think we’re stuck with this guy for a while


GameCocky88
South Carolina Fan
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4618 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
We aren't getting the benefit of our typical BullDawg bump


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mikeboss550
Atlanta Braves Fan
Founder of Gunner Stockton Fan Club
Member since Apr 2013
9522 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
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If we clean house now that costs us Stockton and probably all the rest of the talent on the roster. Unfortunately I think we’re stuck with this guy for a while


Don't give a flying frick no player is worth keeping this moron around.


hiremikeleach
Mississippi St. Fan
Member since Dec 2019
466 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
Tatum their highest commit is now looking at ole miss....


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Mithridates6
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2019
7142 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
How in the frick could you pay Muschamp's buyout this year with the covid-related shortfall though?


Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
1480 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
For the staff of recruiters muschamp has one 4* out of 14 kids is horrific

Wow


sand mountainDvalues
Arkansas Fan
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
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For the staff of recruiters muschamp has one 4* out of 14 kids is horrific

Wow

Yup Boom is not out scheming anyone so if he’s not getting dudes anymore, you’ve gotta pull the plug


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Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
1480 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
This factual why would anyone be so offended they actually downvote

Idc downvote this all u want I'm truly curious

Going from Spurrier to Muschamp is far worse then going from OBC to Zook. I'm just imagining how yall feel. Zook still managed to beat and put fear in top 10 teams

Zook at least beat good teams still made football fun with big wins. Aet up a fantastic roster for Meyer also
This post was edited on 10/20 at 7:18 pm


Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
1480 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
You still shouldn't suck this bad at recruiting mainly put together a staff recruiters

It's a huge part of what he wants in a coach. Actual not so much.


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Soda City Spur
South Carolina Fan
Lugoff
Member since Mar 2017
386 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
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I'm just imagining how yall feel.
People will probably disagree but it's been hard to recruit enough high level to elite talent at USC historically.

The way our football teams have to be constructed relies on recruiting the in-between recruits(high 3* - low 4*) and the occasional blue chip recruits (high 4* - 5*).

Then developing these players becomes paramount for the team to win 6-12 games, the division, etc. which is necessary for recruiting more blue chip players than the in-between players. The better recruiting and consistent player development should ultimately produce a title contending team.

We saw how Spurrier and Co. were able to develop the in-between players, the occasional blue chip players, win enough games to be consistently ranked in the top 25, and win the division once. His downfall was that all of the above didn't translate into better recruiting after the 2011-2012 classes. Thus the epic collapse in 2014-2015 and Spurrier's resignation.

The 2014-2015 seasons made the job really unattractive and the new coach search was the responsibility of a 1st time AD that doesn't know the first thing about hiring an SEC football coach. This is how Muschamp became our coach that some believe was our 4th or 5th candidate for the job. Whoever got the job was inheriting a depleted roster on both sides of the ball and had to recruit against Kirby at UGA and Dabo at Clemson.

Muschamp somehow recruited a top 25 class in 2016 and won 6 games to become bowl eligible after the team won 3 games in 2015. This inflated the fan bases' expectations beyond realistic and turned out to be an overachievement in hindsight. He continued to recruit well in the 2017-2020 classes, but that did not translate into winning 8-12 games for those seasons. The 9, 7, and 4, win seasons that followed the 2016 season appear to be the result of the coaching staff not being able to develop players and win big games. This cause and effect has been realized and vocalized by the fanbase to the point of calling for Muschamp's job.

All of this has KILLED the 2021 class. So, we are still in the first step of the football team construction process and not sure if the staff is capable of reaching the next step.

I was ready to give up hope this offseason but am starting to warm up to the idea of Mike Bobo being here for a year or two to see what the offense can become. Hopefully this gives Muschamp a chance to shore up the defense and we can be a team that contends for the division.

The alternative is firing Muschamp but that starts the process over again and like 2016 there is no clear candidate that is a good fit for the job for the reasons stated above.


mikeboss550
Atlanta Braves Fan
Founder of Gunner Stockton Fan Club
Member since Apr 2013
9522 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
Spurrier fricked up when he named Jr RC instead of giving it to Jay Graham which then pushed graham to leave to go to tennessee


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Lonnie Utah
Citadel Fan
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
10205 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
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All of this has KILLED the 2021 class. So, we are still in the first step of the football team construction process and not sure if the staff is capable of reaching the next step.



No, all of our Dumbarse fans yelling "fire Muschamp" all last year killed our class.


GetCocky11
South Carolina Fan
Arlen, TX
Member since Oct 2012
40572 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
Once recruits getting any sense at all that a coach might be on the hot seat, that recruit goes elsewhere. It is an incurable disease, and right now when recruits look at Will Muschamp they see a man who won't be there in 2-3 years.

Same thing happened 6 years ago, except Spurrier was the idiot who spiked his own recruiting class.
This post was edited on 10/23 at 1:14 pm


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Soda City Spur
South Carolina Fan
Lugoff
Member since Mar 2017
386 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
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All of this has KILLED the 2021 class. So, we are still in the first step of the football team construction process and not sure if the staff is capable of reaching the next step.
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This cause and effect has been realized and vocalized by the fanbase to the point of calling for Muschamp's job.


Reading is key Lonald and upvoter



Big_Cock_Fan
South Carolina Fan
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
1104 posts

re: What is going on with South Carolina's class?
Muschamp is killing it. He's selling ice to Eskimos.


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