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re: USCe has a great class going

Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:52 am to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:52 am to
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Funny how the same schools that rank high in recruiting also tend to win more games.

Total coincidence.


I didn't say otherwise.

I said that stars aren't the end all in recruiting.

I'll lay it out more clearly so you and your UGA friend can understand it better next time.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 11:54 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43096 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:54 am to
Here's a 5 star argument for you.



Another 5 star.

Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26817 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:55 am to
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I said that stars aren't the end all in recruiting.

I'll lay it out more clearly so you and your UGA friend can understand it better next time.

This is actually what you said
quote:

Stars don't mean crap.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43096 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:58 am to
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Stars don't mean crap


quote:

I said that stars aren't the end all in recruiting.


Yeah, I wonder why anyone would be confused.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 12:30 pm to
I think where we are getting off topic is what the ratings are actually implying. They aren't attempting to say that at the end of their lives a 3* won't be as successful as a 5*. They are a snapshot in time saying that at this point, these players are further along in their development and possess the ability to continue to improve and go to the next level.

A guy can be deemed a 3* for something as simple as having a HS coaching staff that was unable to properly develop. He can absolutely get coached up and thrive in the future, but having to spend part of your 3-5 years in college learning techniques that the 5* already knows does indeed have an effect. Can he get to where the 5* was coming out of high school and progress to where he is coming out of college? Yes. but it is less likely and it is that likelihood that the ratings are measuring.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89561 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 12:34 pm to
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They aren't attempting to say that at the end of their lives a 3* won't be as successful as a 5*. They are a snapshot in time saying that at this point, these players are further along in their development and possess the ability to continue to improve and go to the next level.


While I think this is how they SHOULD be, that's definitley not the case across the board. I know for certain that Rivals gives their rating based on NFL potential. Yeah, I know..it's retarded. A head rivals recruiting guy (can't remember who specifically) was answering some questions on the UGA Rivals recruiting board once and was asked why someone (maybe Fromm or Lecounte, someone like that) wasn't ranked higher despite the multitude of stats, camps, and everythign else that would indicate they should be. His answer was that they didn't project to be high round draft picks in the NFL which is why they weren't ranked higher.


Posted by UpstateCock2007
Columbia, SC
Member since Mar 2009
7744 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 12:35 pm to
This year's class will be solid, but 2018 could possibly be a game changer for us.

Two guys in this class who aren't highly ranked that I'm excited about are Damani Staley and DeVonne Bowen. Both of these guys are fast-twitch guys who play well in space and can get after the QB.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Damani Staley


This is actually a really good example of the star rating discussion. Staley is a very good player, however he's played DE throughout HS. He is projected to play LB in college. He's never played LB other than I think they tried him out there at the Shrine Bowl. Having to learn a completely new position does in and of itself make it less likely that he will end up in the NFL. Not saying that he won't, its just not as likely as a guy who has been playing LB his entire life.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
101654 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:20 pm to
Lol at UGA fans in every single South Carolina thread trolling on this board.

Every single one.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89561 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:30 pm to
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CNB


me? I haven't trolled SC at all in here
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43096 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:32 pm to
There's one whole thread about USCe on the first page
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
101654 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:43 pm to
But every time there is, there y'all are
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43096 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:46 pm to
Welcome to the recruiting board

Let me know when we start an annual obsession game about USCe.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26705 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:48 pm to
The man has a point. But UGA is just keeping yall honest.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
101654 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:50 pm to
Lol one thread trolls an entire fan base.

Nice
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89561 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 2:28 pm to
Wait...

A SC poster starting a mega-obsessed about UGA on the SECR (multiple times), SEC O-T board, and numerous team boards (UF and UT last I checked, maybe more) si cool,

but UGA fans talking about SC in a thread with SC in the title on the recruiting board is trolling?

Interesting.
Posted by SumterCoDawg
Member since Apr 2015
5310 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 2:31 pm to
It makes sense if you don't think about it.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
26618 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Leon S Kennedy
Member since Aug 2016
1297 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 4:39 pm to
I hope South Carolina Tennessee and Florida keep loading up on 3 stars. Great classes for them...and for UGA as an opponent.

And I don't want to see any crap about how Richt recruited. Kirby has top 3 class that would be #1 most years. Championship level recruiting. If we win the East next season it could get even better. Only Bama will be problem by 2018 if he can coach these guys up.
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