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Farmer1906
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re: The Opening Discussion
So he decided to lose intentionally?


Farmer1906
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re: The Opening Discussion
WR From Day 1

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Alpha Dog

There was a really strong group of receivers working out but it was tight end Michael Mayer who had the day’s most dominant performance. The Notre Dame commit had multiple acrobatic jump ball catches, got easy separation on throws down the field and didn’t drop a ball that we saw all day. In fact, not only did we not see Mayer drop a ball, we didn’t see him lose a single rep all day. Mayer projects as a possession/third-down pass0catcher as well as a threat down the field.

Next 3

Gee Scott - Scott really impressed with his route running, hands and catch radius. The Ohio State commit might have been the most polished route runner of the day, got a ton of separation and has extremely strong hands. He has a big, strong body and does a nice job catching the ball through contact. He also has better long speed than given credit for and was getting deep all day.

Jermaine Burton - Burton has a lethal combination of strength, speed and hands. He’s shows both short area burst and deep speed, is very strong in his upper body and has a wide catch radius. The LSU commit can run every route and is a natural pass catcher, even with a corner hanging on him.

Eddie Williams - Williams is as smooth as it gets. The game just looks easy for him and he has deceptive speed for a long 6-3, 190 pound pass catcher. He does a nice job setting up a corner, is tough to jam at the line of scrimmage and showed sticky hands. Alabama, Auburn and Clemson look like the favorites for Williams right now.

Emptying the Notebook

- All eyes were on the nation’s top two pass catchers, Demond Demas and Julian Fleming, and neither disappointed. The only thing keeping them from making our top three list was some spotty quarterback play during their reps. Fleming has a college body right now and has tremendous speed. Demas is very twitchy and has high level body control. For the fun of it, Demas also threw it 62 yards in the long ball competition, jumping in with the quarterbacks.

- Gary Bryant is cat quick and and might have been the best getting up the field after making the catch. He never fights the football and was an extremely tough cover. Arizona State, Oklahoma UCLA, USC and Washington are his early leaders.

- Marcus Rosemy really came on strong toward the end of the day. He’s a big receiver at 6-2, 190 pounds and won every 50-50 ball that we saw. The Georgia commit has a chance to be special in college.

- Tight end Arik Gilbert was tremendous and showed why he’s one of the top all around athletes in the country. While there has been talk of him playing defense, he was close to uncoverable all day. At 6-6, 245 pounds, Gilbert is a load to deal with down the field and he was very consistent catching the ball as well.

- Ze'Vian Capers was yet another big receiver who showed he can make plays down the field. He looked all of 6-4, 195 pounds and was routinely able to run pass defenders and made multiple tough 50-50 ball catches.


- Mookie Cooper is among the most versatile athletes in the country and can play running back or receiver. He worked out with the receivers today and every time we looked up, he was getting deep and running past a defender.

- Jaxon Smith-Njigba was a late add but had a very good day and showed he belonged. The Ohio State commit catches the ball as naturally as anyone, has high level body control and runs really well.


Farmer1906
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re: The Opening Discussion
RB from Day 1

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Alpha Dog

Kendall Milton, a five-star prospect on the industry-generated 247Sports Composite, was the top-ranked running back to compete in Monday's workout and showed why. The 6-foot-2, 220-pound reported a 4.59-second 40-yard dash during testing, then assembled one of the better performances against a strong linebacker corps in "Cat-and-Mouse" 1-on1's. Perhaps his best rep in that portion of Monday's workouts came when he spun past four-star linebacker Noah Sewell for a 10-yard win in Cat-and-Mouse. Sewell was consistently good against the event's backs in virtually all of his other reps. Running back reps were limited in pass-catching 1-on-1's, but Milton got loose on the rail and almost ran down an overthrow for what would have been quite an impressive play.

Next 3

Chris Tyree -- listed as an athlete on the roster, the speedy Notre Dame four-star commit worked out at running back, where his close-quarters agility and quick-footedness showed in drills and 1-on-1's. Tyree reported a blistering 4.37-second 40-yard dash during testing and finished . He showed a unique amalgam of athleticism that featured explosive burst with impressively smooth balance and body control throughout.

MarShawn Lloyd -- Lloyd, a strong four-star standout committed to South Carolina, was a bit of a prototype for many of the builds in this position group, which seemed to feature numerous guys in the 5-foot-9 to 5-foot-11, 200-plus range. He impressed on the hoof and showed encouraging quick-twitch traits during Cat-and-Mouse drills, particularly during the showcase at the end of the day's workout, when he won two reps against top linebacker competition.

Tank Bigsby -- Bigsby's twitchiness caught our attention early during position drills and continued with a couple of nice reps in Cat-and-Mouse drills. Bigsby is another one of the backs with the broad-shouldered, low-center-of-gravity profile who is built well with the type of pad level and frame that could provide high-volume value at the next level, if needed.

-- Oklahoma four-star pledge Seth McGowan was one of the most physically impressive prospects on the hoof, regardless of position, the Oklahoma four-star pledge displayed encouraging agility during position-specific drills and Cat-and-Mouse 1-on-1's. McGowan owns the type of build that could make him a high-volume, high-production back in at the Power Five level, and he's provided that type of role for his high school team. McGowan's motor runs high and he was thoroughly engaged throughout Monday's workout.

-- Continuing the theme of well-built, leverage-dominant backs, Miami four-star pledge Don Chaney Jr. provided a consistently solid performance throughout Monday's workout that earned him a spot in the Cat-and-Mouse 1-on-1 showcase at day's end. Chaney is solidly built and showed encouraging twitch.


-- Oklahoma four-star commit Jase McClellan improved as the day progressed. He started off a bit shaky in one of the balance-oriented drills, which is surprising given his balance in pads on the field, but recovered for a respectable showing during Cat-and-Mouse 1-on-1's. He also provided one of the better pass-catching reps for a 1-on-1 win toward the end of the day.

-- Four-star all-purpose back Jaylan Knighton assembled one of the better Cat-and-Mouse 1-on-1 performances thanks to his close-quarters agility and instincts. However, Knighton went down with an apparent foot injury during the pass-catching 1-on-1's and left the field.


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re: The Opening Discussion
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So he decided to lose intentionally?


I dont think he really cared, all this means nothing, they are having fun.

Everyone knows Finley has a gigantic arm, dude has incredible arm strength when you watch him fit the ball into windows he does. His mechanics arent there yet, most of his throws he's standing straight up and flicks the ball, he basically has never had to use proper mechanics to deliver a pass to get it where it needs to go.

Saw the video of his throw, he isn't even close to really trying
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Farmer1906
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re: The Opening Discussion
DL from Day 1

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Alpha Dog

Sometimes the highest-ranked player makes it obvious and today was one of those cases with Bryan Bresee. 247Sports Composite's No. 1 prospect heading into the event, he led the way all afternoon on the field, whether in drills or in one-on-one competition. At 6-foot-5, 290 pounds, Bresee plays with great power and technique, perhaps as expected. But where he really wows is with his overall explosiveness and quickness at that size. Using developed pass rushing moves, he won just about every way possible Monday. The domination began with power, shifted to counter moves inside and finished with pure speed and finesse. The only competition rep Bresee fell short on was an attempted spin move inside against Tate Ratledge. Everything else was near flawless and honestly looked easy more times than not. Clemson is getting an alpha in every sense of the definition and the rising-senior had fun during every step of his latest display, too.

Next 3

1. Demonte Capehart, Hartsville (S.C.)

Another Clemson commitment in the trenches, the four-star was probably the top defensive line performer among those who mostly stayed on the interior Monday. Like Bresee, he can win with power or quickness, flashing in both arenas against bigger blockers. Capehart puts pressure on the opposition immediately off the line and can jolt laterally at any point, making for big wins on this day. Otherwise he played with good leverage and overpowered the opponent on routine. Capehart’s lateral ability pairs well with his frame and base.

2. Korey Foreman, Corona (Calif.) Centennial

The 2021 prospect looked like the youngest competitor in the trenches on occasion, but few had more dominant flashes than the Californian. In addition to absolutely looking the part, well-proportioned with good length, the athleticism jumped out near instantly Monday. He overwhelmed some of the more slender tackles with an outside stab and power step back underneath before a rip. Against others he tried to win with speed, doing so successfully more times than not. But Foreman’s best flash was an outside spin move he set up to perfection, quick and fluid on execution. The rising-junior recruit is uncommitted at this time but Alabama, USC, Oregon, LSU and UCLA are among those involved early on.

3. Tre Williams, Washington (D.C.) St. John’s College

Another future Clemson Tiger, Williams used his natural leverage and lower-body power to get blockers on skates but countered with great quickness as well. One easy win put pressure on the blocker’s front side before he jumped back inside and swam over the top to get to the passer with minimal contact. Not bad for a 300-pounder working in limited space. Williams played a bit outside of his frame at times but even then he recovered with good power to salvage close calls.


Emptying the Notebook

- 247Sports Composite five-star Reggie Grimes is a do-it-all athlete at the prep level but worked as a defensive end Monday. He won big early in the day with a good combination of length and power. He’d later rely on the speed rush too much but the frame and raw athleticism isn’t hard to project. Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina and Florida State, among others, are in the mix.

- The top prospect in Mississippi, McKinnley Jackson had a solid showing both in drills and in competition portions of the workout. He is fairly quick for his size and seems to be reshaping his big body. Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, LSU and others are courting his services

-Gervon Dexter had an up and down showing. With his great frame he won with power and drive when he wanted to but failed to counter when the bull option was denied. The Florida commitment has the tools to be among the most dominant players in the country, regardless of position, so we’ll look forward to the shoulder pads coming on the rest of the way.

- Monday wasn’t the best day for the edge rushing group. Winning with speed is typical in a non-padded setting but the offensive tackle prospects were ready to get to depth all day long. Blue-chippers Grimes, Chantz Williams, B.J. Ojulari and Princely Umanmielen fell more than not. Expect some bounce back work from the talented group.


- While in attendance, Powder Springs (Ga.) Hillgrove defensive end and 247Sports Composite five-star Myles Murphy will not participate in the workouts this week. The Clemson commitment has an unspecified minor injury.

- After being told he would check in late, 247Sports did finally spot four-star Houston (Tex.) Cy Ridge defensive lineman Vernon Broughton but he was in street clothes during Monday’s work.


Farmer1906
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re: The Opening Discussion
LB from Day 1

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It was an excellent group where there were several candidates for Alpha, but as the pass coverage one-on-ones went on, it was Penn State commit Curtis Jacobs who made plays over and over again. We could see why the Owing Mills (Md.) McDonough four-star is also a good offensive player for his high school as he has excellent ball skills. He had a one-handed interception and then another interception. He also broke up several passes.

Next 3

Noah Sewell – The Orem (Utah) athlete is 266 pounds making him easily the heaviest linebacker in attendance. With that, he is right there with the group in terms of athleticism and ability to cover. He was rarely beaten in pass coverage and did well in the cat and mouse drills as well. Seeing a guy that big move like that in space had his name buzzing during the camp.

Quandarrius Robinson – Robinson is built for this type of event. A long, sleek athlete, he is very fluid and covers a lot of ground quickly. There were some other fast linebackers in the group also, but Robinson’s body control in addition to that speed separated him. The Birmingham (Ala.) Jackson-Olim product is committed to Alabama.

Cody Simon – An Ohio State commit from Jersey City (N.J.) St. Peters Prep, Simon is maybe not the big, physical freak some of these other guys in the group are at 6-foot-1, 217 pounds, but he is very quick and plays with great control. He is always in excellent position whether it be in cat and mouse or coverage. He was one of the backers with the best technique.

Emptying the Notebook

- Charlotte (N.C.) Mallard Creek’s Trenton Simpson is a fast, explosive prospect with as much upside as anyone in the group. The Auburn commit has the foot speed to run downfield with backs which he did on a couple wheel routes.

- Recent Florida commit Derek Wingo had an interception in one-on-ones and good reps in cat and mouse.


- Mississippi State commit Jakivuan Brown had good reps in cat and mouse. Warner Robins (Ga.) Houston County’s Wesley Steiner, Athens (Ga.) Academy's Len'Neth Whitehead, and Buford (Ga.) Lanier’s Phillip Webb were two others who showed good athletic traits in space. Steiner was one of the best testers of the entire camp.


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re: The Opening Discussion
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By 25, do you mean 9 and a half inch shorter?



6'3'' | 210 LBS

6'3'' | 180 LBS

That's what rivals says. 247 has Fleming lighter and Demas as heavier. I was really just parroting that people have said Fleming is way more filled out in his frame; I haven't done height/weights on them


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re: The Opening Discussion
Jesus... of the top 4 performances on DL, 3 of them are currently committed to Clemson and the other is a Junior. Can someone please fricking hire Will Venables away from them?

(also to be noted, their 4th DL commitment - 5* Murphy - is there but did not participate due to injury...)


Farmer1906
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re: The Opening Discussion
The measurements from the opening are posted on the previous page.


Buckeye06
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re: The Opening Discussion
Ok, I hadn't looked at that post for height/weight (they are about the same size agreed)

I'm still not sure what your point is. Fleming tested better yesterday and there was no difference it seems in their on field performance. What reasoning would you have to make Demas the #1 WR based on yesterday?



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DawgRff
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re: The Opening Discussion
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The only competition rep Bresee fell short on was an attempted spin move inside against Tate Ratledge.

This needs a discussion thread of its own
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Farmer1906
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re: The Opening Discussion
I think Demas is better.


ColoradoAg
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re: The Opening Discussion
Somebody needs to hire Venables for HC


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NCDawg52
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re: The Opening Discussion
Not sure what is more amazing: how well Clemson recruits the DL or how poorly UGA does.


Captain Crown
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re: The Opening Discussion
I need to see a video of this



HeLeakin
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I need to see a video of this


Twitter video


Long Dawg
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re: The Opening Discussion
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Alpha Dog

Kendall Milton, a five-star prospect on the industry-generated 247Sports Composite, was the top-ranked running back to compete in Monday's workout and showed why. The 6-foot-2, 220-pound reported a 4.59-second 40-yard dash during testing, then assembled one of the better performances against a strong linebacker corps in "Cat-and-Mouse" 1-on1's. Perhaps his best rep in that portion of Monday's workouts came when he spun past four-star linebacker Noah Sewell for a 10-yard win in Cat-and-Mouse. Sewell was consistently good against the event's backs in virtually all of his other reps. Running back reps were limited in pass-catching 1-on-1's, but Milton got loose on the rail and almost ran down an overthrow for what would have been quite an impressive play.



Milton vs. Sewell - coming to UGA practice fields - Spring 2020


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Noah Sewell – The Orem (Utah) athlete is 266 pounds making him easily the heaviest linebacker in attendance. With that, he is right there with the group in terms of athleticism and ability to cover. He was rarely beaten in pass coverage and did well in the cat and mouse drills as well. Seeing a guy that big move like that in space had his name buzzing during the camp.


PLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSE can he come to Athens


Captain Crown
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Gracias. That’s some air


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Farmer1906
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re: The Opening Discussion
We want him in maroon.


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