So, a recruit has jumped 130 spots in 12 days without any games played nor attended camps

bama must have offered him. These recruiting "experts" know saban has an eye for talent.......that is what makes the "bama bump" a real thing.

The whole UF drama with ON3 was really interesting as a neutral observer. It was a really good chance to see how the sausage is made.

ON3 basically has 2 guys that do the rankings.

They do ask certain coaches about prospects, the examples they gave being asking Hartline about WRs and Demarco Murray about RBs. I personally think this introduces potential bias, and I went back and looked up an example someone laid out in a post that I remembered reading:

"Sept 18 '22 - Bowens Commits to Florida, ranked in the 150-range nationally

1-30-23 article released by Chad Simmons released about Bowens visting UGA and planning to return

2-28-23 Article about Bowens ranking being moved up to 104, states it was done in their Monday rankings release

Bowens ranking climbed further and he later committed to UGA"

So their thesis is essentially that Bowens visited, UGA got a sense that they could flip him, Dell McGee, Kirby, or whoever gave Chad, Charles Power, or someone else at ON3 good feedback on him, and he climbs over 50 spots up the rankings when no football is being played.


And also keep in mind this story was from a Florida fan, so I'm sure we could find stories of this happening with players that commit/flip to Bama, OSU, USC, or whoever else. They did also say that OSU WR Commit Mylan Graham was higher on ON3 than any other site, pointing to them possibly getting some info from Hartline.

ON3 rankings are pure dogshit for the most part.

Sure, but these guys are acting like they are coming up with these rankings independently.

And like I said in a previous comment, if a recruit doesn't like any of those three schools is there a decent chance he ends up ranked lower than he would have otherwise? Seems like its possible. Why talk up guys you're not in on/that don't like your program?

With the Chauncey Bowens example I gave, maybe if he is really firm that he is committed to Florida then whoever it was at Georgia that supposedly fed info to ON3 might not have commented on him at all. Then ON3 doesn't watch more tape and he doesn't get a rankings bump even if he might have deserved one. It doesn't even have to be conscious bias to add doubt into the process.

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With the Chauncey Bowens example I gave, maybe if he is really firm that he is committed to Florida then whoever it was at Georgia that supposedly fed info to ON3 might not have commented on him at all. Then ON3 doesn't watch more tape and he doesn't get a rankings bump even if he might have deserved one. It doesn't even have to be conscious bias to add doubt into the process.

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I would say the solution to this is for On3, 247, etc. to spend more time talking to more staffs, not just a select few, to get broader feedback and cut through some of that bias. They will never be able to rank kids at scale just watching film themselves.

Uga only accepts studs, so it makes sense. It’s okay to cheat off of Kirby as a recruiting service.

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Charles Power was adamant that they actually evaluate all the prospects they rank, but also they can't really admit they don't evaluate everyone even if it were true.

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Saw an article that said in 2021 there were close to 970,000 kids playing football.

Another poster mentioned 100,000 were seniors. With the services trying to rank seniors and juniors it's inevitable some drop through the cracks and they have to do something to lighten the load on rankings.

To be fair to Chris Cole, he was criminally underrated from the beginning. Watch his film when you get a chance. He's a stud.

They do this shite, and then 10 years later point back to the data and say how good they are at predicting

and you morons let them charge you 10 bucks a month for it