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re: Justin Flowe revealed a new top 4

Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:29 pm to
Lol, an LSU fan thinking his team is clean.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:48 pm to
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Lol, an LSU fan thinking his team is clean.


I don’t think my team is clean, there’s certainly levels of cheating. A&M is apparently shelling out huge bucks as well
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:51 pm to
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No they won't. It will be a dam good class that is top heavy but they have a few low rated recruits as well. Why don't you show the home team some of this love.........unless of course you're an alter


If he's an alter, he's SUPER committed... to the point that he showed up in person for UGA Early Signing Day to hang out... NCDawg52 is good people... and more intelligent than a good chunk of our posters... he's just got a couple of big hangups.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:55 pm to
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I can't speak for best of all time but I know they have a more than legitimate chance at landing the #1-4 players in this class. (24/7 rankings)



This is from a pretty solid Clemson poster over on DN forums:

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Clemson expects to finish with Flowe, EJ Williams, and Xzavier Henderson, which brings the score to 311.88. With Burch that goes up to 318.54.

For UGA, the class would reach 318.74 with Burch and a tentative finish to the class, WITHOUT Dexter, Evans, OR even a single tight end...and UGA is in prime position for 2 5-star studs.

The “tentative finish” I used on the class calculator was Ringo, Bigsby, Sewell, J Conley, Z Walker, A Smith, and Van Pran (I’ve read DN long enough to know what’s good)

So as much as I would love to see CU get the #1 class, I’m also objective and realize that what @SoFL_Dawg has been preaching to the board is very true...UGA may have the highest ranked class ever.


I'd take the UGA "best class ever" comments as "appeasing the crowd" more than a "I think it will happen"... but it's certainly in the cards. If you look at our possible close, there are pretty easy paths to 325ish ranked classes for UGA. A lot of things have to go right, but it's doable... Of course, we'll have to see what happen to the rankings over the course of the season, as that is typically the great equalizer and can make a lot of the "best class ever" talk disappear pretty quickly.

Clemson will have an exceptional class, I'm not disputing that. Just disputing that it will have a chance at "best class ever"... it just isn't super likely given who else they are currently planning to add to their class.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:58 pm to
I am not counting Georgia out. I will say that it will be a major disappointment if he doesn’t come to Oregon. He sees Cristobal as a 2nd father. However, that being said, all of the Sewell brothers have blazed their own path.

I think if Oregon shows consistent play, he ends up here. This class should put at least 8 in the draft with Dye at linebacker going 1st or 2nd round round. Oregon needs to ball out.

Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:04 pm to
If you’re landing the top composite ranking ever, you’re probably doing it wrong. When Oregon offered Ajou Ajou, everyone saw a bully down the road, composite ranking withstanding.

The composite rankings are not in alignment with scheme, class spacing and how good the kid will be when they’re needed down the road.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:11 pm to
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If you’re landing the top composite ranking ever, you’re probably doing it wrong. When Oregon offered Ajou Ajou, everyone saw a bully down the road, composite ranking withstanding.

The composite rankings are not in alignment with scheme, class spacing and how good the kid will be when they’re needed down the road.


Yes and no... It's not the driving factor for decision making, as I don't think the staffs concern themselves with rankings of players too much... See: prioritizing Carson Beck over higher rated QBs, or Corey Wren over some other WR targets...

Yet, if you look at who UGA has committed, and who else they have in the cards as possible signees, a top composite ranking is possible as a by-product. I don't think it will happen at this time, but it's also not out of the cards.

Frankly, with the transfer portal now, it's not just important to land the elite talent, but to make sure they have the right mindset coming in... that's really difficult if every kid is top 50/100/150 and has an impression that they'll play early. Only so much playing time to go around.

Thus the reason for my original question... "by what metric" was NC determining that Clemson would have the "best class of all time".
Posted by Todd Fagan
Member since Jan 2019
237 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:27 pm to
UGA will most likely get Burch, hope it's soon enough for Clemson to pivot to Smalls. He's been recruiting Clemson for 6 months.
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:31 pm to
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UGA and Clemson are two of the dirtiest programs running right now. Whoever writes the bigger check at the end


Ed Orgeron is attracting kids to third world Baton Rouge because he’s just such a charming guy.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60639 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:19 pm to
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I am not counting Georgia out. I will say that it will be a major disappointment if he doesn’t come to Oregon. He sees Cristobal as a 2nd father. However, that being said, all of the Sewell brothers have blazed their own path.


We don't expect to get Flowe. If he wants to come....yes, we'd take him most likely. but we are concentrating more on Sewell. We expect Flowe to go to Clemson.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:19 pm to
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I think he’s intrigued with playing with Sewell. In the end, he goes to Clemson. He spurred SNL for you guys. I think the only way he stays on the West Coast is if the PAC looks significantly better and they’re not.

Except for Clemson and UGA, are the ACC and SEC-East any better than the PAC?
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 4:22 pm
Posted by NFLU
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2014
5840 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 5:20 pm to
I was told he was a Bama lock?
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13140 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 5:22 pm to
Yeah, that was said. Point blank it will be tough for the Sewell family to watch all their kids play on Saturday is Noah goes to Georgia. They have one at Nevada and another at Utah. We actually play both teams. I really think Oregon just needs to not suck. I think Noah is attracted to the SEC and doesn’t want to be in the shadows of his brother. That being said, he is casting his own shadow with his 5th star. He will also get plenty development going against Oregon’s OL in practice.
Posted by NFLU
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2014
5840 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 5:22 pm to
You mad?

Yeah, you mad.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72916 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:17 pm to
I’m not sure who said that. Very much wanted but never a lock.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:38 pm to
To be fair because of Bama’s recruiting success a large portion of your base feels like Bama can get whoever they want,not the case
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72916 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:48 pm to
13 years of recruiting success of Saban will do that. But I’ve always been pessimistic about recruiting. That being said, Alabama has a long history of LB success so losing out on Flowe sucks.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:52 pm to
Understandable
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:03 pm to
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To be fair because of Bama’s recruiting success a large portion of your base feels like Bama can get whoever they want,not the case

Normal reasonable-minded fans don't think so. Bama has to recruit out-of-state a lot to get elite players and there's plenty of tough competition for them. Bama loses many more of those recruiting battles than they win.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 12:32 am
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5605 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:25 pm to
Is he moving to tackle? If so I expect Clemson. If he's planning on paying ILB I expect UGA.

Scheme wise and roster wise Georgia lines up too well not to get either Flowe or Sewell.
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