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re: Florida Prospects Give Opinion on New Florida Head Coach Dan Mullen vs New FSU HC Taggert
Posted on 1/20/18 at 6:44 pm to Gatorbait2008
Posted on 1/20/18 at 6:44 pm to Gatorbait2008
4* wr just committed Justin Watkins
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 6:47 pm to The Winner
Taggart's really never done anything special. He's a solid but average coach. I don't get all the hype. I think Mullen's going to own the series with FSU.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:05 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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You guys said he was a lazy recruitier, but you guys seriously just never considered that Mississippi State might not be a place recruits want to go. All he's shown this last month and some change is the exact opposite of lazy. He's made some serious power moves, he's all over the place, he's talking to everyone.
MSU was recruiting in-state talent against a school that's been hit with sanctions for cheating -- that takes away a significant amount of recruits from the get-go.
Seriously, it just might be that he didn't have the resources in general to make MSU look better than Auburn/Alabama/LSU/Ole Miss/Texas A&M.
At Florida he has a lot more to work with, and if you guys don't just flat out admit this you're delusional.
I am sure you know far more about his recruiting tactics and effort than anyone else, you have both MSU and OM fans agreeing on something and FL recruits backing it up, but you certianly know better than all of them.
And you are calling folks delusional
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:18 am to cave canem
Maybe I'm confused: Are you seriously thinking that recruiting at MSU vs. Florida is a push, or anywhere near the same? McElwain was a lazy recruiter, and he outrecruited Mullen every year at Florida -- even in a transition year.
I thought it was universally understood that Florida is a remarkably easier place to recruit at football.
I thought it was universally understood that Florida is a remarkably easier place to recruit at football.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:34 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Maybe I'm confused: Are you seriously thinking that recruiting at MSU vs. Florida is a push,
No one has made than claim you dense count.
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I thought it was universally understood that Florida is a remarkably easier place to recruit at football.
Congrats on creating your own giant strawman to joust against.
WTF does that have to do with Mullens recruiting effort?
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:48 am to cave canem
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Congrats on creating your own giant strawman to joust against.
Literally, in the quote, at teh very end it says: If you don't think it's just easier to recruit at Florida, then you're delusional.
So fricking read, you stupid donut.
At Florida he has a lot more to work with, and if you guys don't just flat out admit this you're delusional.
I think it's less to do with his work ethic (which apparently has changed completely in the switch, must be coincidence) and more to do with MSU football not being very appealing.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:55 am to cave canem
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FL recruits backing it up
That's not happening, only one of those kids should have any interaction with Mullen and Mullen just visited his school and offered underclassmen. It would be hard for any Gator to agree with the "lazy" comments because it couldn't be any further from the reality we are seeing. He's extremely active on the recruiting trail and looks to be closing in on a very strong transition class.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:29 pm to bgator85
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He's extremely active on the recruiting trail and looks to be closing in on a very strong transition class.
I don't disagree with you. But I am curious how a Gator defines "very strong transition class".
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:41 pm to meansonny
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But I am curious how a Gator defines "very strong transition class".
We're at #15 now with 15 commits. Zook's first class was #10, Meyer was #12. Decent chance Mullen's first class ends up in that neighborhood, and points-wise be better than any class Mac ever recruited. I would consider that a strong first start.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:50 pm to bgator85
Wasn't this Mac's best class though? Before the whole player/family threats thing?
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:11 pm to meansonny
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Wasn't this Mac's best class though? Before the whole player/family threats thing?
Yes, it would have been his best, but like most transitions lost a few commits for any number of reasons.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:35 pm to bgator85
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Yes, it would have been his best, but like most transitions lost a few commits for any number of reasons.
So very strong transition class would be slightly below what Mac would have signed (top 10)?
Posted on 1/21/18 at 2:03 pm to Drizzt
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Taggart's really never done anything special.
What he accomplished in such a short time at WKU is miracle shite. They had lost like 27 straight games and he had them bowl eligible in year 2. That program hasn't looked back.
Did a very similar thing at USF.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 2:16 pm to bgator85
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We're at #15 now with 15 commits.
That's not even counting Van Jefferson (4*) or Trevon Grimes (Prior 5* at OSU, mysteriously downgraded to 4*).
Posted on 1/21/18 at 2:26 pm to meansonny
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So very strong transition class would be slightly below what Mac would have signed (top 10)?
There has been nothing atypical about this transition class. Typically you lose some recruits. Some guys attached to the old staff, some just not wanted by the new staff and want to make room for others. I have very little issue with the way Mullen has handled this recruiting cycle.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 1/21/18 at 2:37 pm to Quicksilver
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What he accomplished in such a short time at WKU is miracle shite. They had lost like 27 straight games and he had them bowl eligible in year 2. That program hasn't looked back.
Did a very similar thing at USF.
No, what's miracle shite is taking a team that went 0 - 12 two years prior and then suddenly having them at 13 - 0 with a win over Auburn.
He's a rather pedestrian coach, average and lost both coordinators who were known for recruiting pretty well -- and even on the recruiting level he didn't do so hot.
He really hasn't done much at all.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 2:45 pm to Quicksilver
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Did a very similar thing at USF.
He was on the hot seat at USF entering year 3 and had to fire a number of assistants. It ultimately worked out for him, but there was a struggle.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:45 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Lol you can think that if you want. To inherit a program that had lost 26 consecutive games and have them bowl eligible in year 2 is incredible. He's a program builder. I expect FSU to be very formidable in 2-3 years.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:10 pm to bgator85
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There has been nothing atypical about this transition class. Typically you lose some recruits. Some guys attached to the old staff, some just not wanted by the new staff and want to make room for others. I have very little issue with the way Mullen has handled this recruiting cycle.
I don't disagree with any of this. I was just curious what barometer a UF fan placed to qualify this as a very strong transition class.
From the outside looking in. It does not look like a very high barometer for mullen. (I dont blame Miss State fans for crowing).
But I think it was the same for Smart. "Just don't screw it up" in the first class. Expectations were to get a head start on the next class and bring in both high quality and strong numbers to turnover the roster with a full year to recruit.
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