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Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

quote:..and Bob Stoops > Nick Saban..at developing QB's Hasn't Greg McElroy done as much as any Oklahoma QB, not named Sam Bradford, at the next level? It is not exactly a glaring comparison you're making.



Who said just NFL? I'm talking college...y'all try to spin everything on this board


Josh Heupel National Champion
Jason White Heisman
Sam Bradford Heisman
Landry Jones Shattered Records,Top 5 QB in Draft (was in Heisman talk)


vs.

Greg McElroy System QB
AJ Mccarron Average QB in Big 12....
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
76037 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 2:01 pm to
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Landry Jones Shattered Records,Top 5 QB in Draft (was in Heisman talk)




Landry Jones may not even get drafted at all, let alone be one of the first 5 QBs picked.

I gotta give it to you kid, you definitely go full blown retard over your school, players, and coaches.

I salute you for your utterly blind support, regardless of multiple outside, unbiased disagreeing parties.

Oh yeah, I'm still waiting on those links.
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 2:05 pm
Posted by ApeDeuce
Funkytown
Member since May 2012
1606 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

AJ Mccarron Average QB in Big 12....


Ok, cool... You can really stop there. Point taken... we totally get it now! We do appreciate your insight!
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37709 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Average QB in Big 12....


Look, I don't think Nick Saban facilitates the development of QBs beyond game manager and nobody thinks anyone at Alabama's staff is a QB Guru


That being said,

Big 12 QBs are only good because they play defense optional in that league. When the big 12 starts playing defense, then you can compare QBs and their stats league to league.


You are a fricking moron for trying to pretend that the Big 12 is a "quarterback league." Half their QBs would drown in the SEC



Alabama fans, when you have the most dominating defense and run game in the country for the past 4 years, it takes a lot of pressure off the shoulders of your QB. I am pretty sure my handicapped grandmother could throw for 30 TDs behind your line of 4 future potential first round draft picks and two future first round draft pick RBs complimenting too.

This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 2:53 pm
Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:01 pm to
TideSaint
quote:

Landry Jones may not even get drafted at all, let alone be one of the first 5 QBs picked.



Not sure if serious or troll.....

Mel Kiper, John Gruden, Todd McShay, and many other credible NFL analysts disagree with you....




Kiper writes that Jones was “once a likely mid-to-late rounder”, who has suddenly become somewhat of a hot commodity among general managers and that he “wouldn’t be shocked if someone took him in the late second round”.
You want links?

LINK

LINK

LINK

LINK /

Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:05 pm to
[quote]Big 12 QBs are only good because they play defense optional in that league.


^ Full Retard.


This is such typical SEC bullshite way of thinking. Big 12 secondary's are better than the SEC's beside maybe BAMA and LSU.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35447 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

LINK

LINK

LINK

LINK /




2 of your links say 9th best QB, as they are the same service. CBS and nfldraftscout are the same.

The link to Mayock's QB rankings was in February, his latest was released yesterday. Jones currently does not break his top 5:

LINK

Nor does he break Mayock's top 100 prospects:

LINK

I'm not a fan of Mayock, but apparently you are to use his rankings in an argument...
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 3:11 pm
Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:10 pm to

SEC fan thinks just because SEC defenses are supposedly the best..that the secondary's are automatically better...well, that's not true.


Like I've said before...Big 12 Secondary's are the best in the nation because they are built to stop the pass.


Read this article illiterate SEC fans

LINK
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91654 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:14 pm to
Get off of the fricking recruiting board, moron. You can go argue this on the SECRant.
Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:20 pm to
How it really is?


SEC Run Defense > Big 12 Run Defense

SEC Pass Defense < Big 12 Pass Defense

SEC Run Offense > Big 12 Run Offense

SEC Pass Offense < Big 12 Pass Offense


If you argue this you're too bias to be in this thread to begin with.

This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 3:24 pm
Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:23 pm to

SEC teams are trying to recruit Texas' Big 12 DB recruits, and Big 12 caliber Quaterbacks for a reason....

Regarding Landry Jones...he's making alot more money than you TideSaint so Deal with it.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:23 pm to
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Read this article illiterate SEC fans
So I'm supposed to take KC Joyner's word on that?

Meh, I'll look at the statistics instead.

UF was second in the country in pass efficiency defense. Gave up 5.6 ypa, 7 TDs, and had 20 INTs. OU on the other hand gave up 6.4 ypa, 11 TDs, and had 11 INTs.

Breaking it down further...
UF averaged an INT every 22.2 attempts and gave up a TD every 63.4 attempts.
OU averaged an INT every 32.3 attempts and gave up a TD every 38.2 attempts.
UT averaged an INT every 23.4 attempts and gave up a TD every 21.9 attempts.


Yeah, I'll take UFs pass defense.
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 3:24 pm
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85915 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

SEC Pass Defense < Big 12 Pass Defense


Ummmm not even close. If that's the case why are your DB's always trying to catch a WR from behind?
Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

So I'm supposed to take KC Joyner's word on that? Meh, I'll look at the statistics instead. UF was second in the country in pass efficiency defense. Gave up 5.6 ypa, 7 TDs, and had 20 INTs. OU on the other hand gave up 6.4 ypa, 11 TDs, and had 11 INTs. Breaking it down further... UF averaged an INT every 22.2 attempts and gave up a TD every 63.4 attempts. OU averaged an INT every 32.3 attempts and gave up a TD every 38.2 attempts. UT averaged an INT every 23.4 attempts and gave up a TD every 21.9 attempts. Yeah, I'll take UFs pass defense.



OU faced more pass attempts...all of this ^^^ is insanely stupid way of breaking it down. Didn't even use the right stats to begin with..


I'm ashamed of being from the SEC...full of bias, ignorant folks.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

OU faced more pass attempts


You need to recheck your facts there chief.

UF - 444 pass attempts defended
OU - 420 pass attempts defended

quote:

.all of this ^^^ is insanely stupid way of breaking it down. Didn't even use the right stats to begin with..
What would those be slick? You don't think ratings, TDs, INTs, and yards per attempt are important?
quote:

bias, ignorant folks.
Hilarious
Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Ummmm not even close. If that's the case why are your DB's always trying to catch a WR from behind?



Facing better passing attacks, which was in the same post...See " Big 12 Pass attack > SEC pass attack"


Why do SEC teams give up more rushing yards? Is it because they have worse Run Defenses than the Big 12?


Keep trying to spin it...it's amazing how dumb my fellow Southern neighbors are
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:29 pm to
We got ourselves a self loathing Mississipian.

Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Facing better passing attacks, which was in the same post...See " Big 12 Pass attack > SEC pass attack"


Why do SEC teams give up more rushing yards? Is it because they have worse Run Defenses than the Big 12?


Keep trying to spin it...it's amazing how dumb my fellow Southern neighbors are


They are the ones providing facts. You are the one spinning things.

Just a complete fail from you. Keep it coming though.
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 3:31 pm
Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:31 pm to

Texas and Okie State were No.1 & No.2 in best secondary's for 2012...and OU was No. 8

I posted the Link earlier..you obviously didn't read it...


3 Big 12 secondary's ranked in Top 10.. vs. 2 SEC teams
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Texas and Okie State were No.1 & No.2 in best secondary's for 2012...and OU was No. 8

I posted the Link earlier..you obviously didn't read it...


3 Big 12 secondary's ranked in Top 10.. vs. 2 SEC teams


Did you link your own blog? Its cool if you did. We totally understand.
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