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Compare to LSU and Notre Dame 2023 football commits

Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:24 pm
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14826 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:24 pm
LSU 2023 football recruiting class only got 1 4* recruit so far with new HC Brian Kelly.
Notre Dame 2023 football recruiting class has 2 5* and 7 4* recruits so far.
Notre Dame 2023 Football Commits has been very impressive so far!
What is going on with LSU and Brian Kelly? Notre Dame is doing a much better job recruiting without Kelly being the HC at Notre Dame! I thought he was very good at recruiting top talents to Notre Dame. This is the best class I have seen at Notre Dame and that is without Brian Kelly as the HC.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34820 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:33 pm to
LSU just landed the 6th overall class after back to back disaster seasons and a complete program overhaul.

Couldn’t care less about what happens at ND.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11017 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:23 am to
N/m
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 7:25 am
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11017 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:24 am to
Why are you so concerned with ND and LSU recruiting?

Do you honestly believe LSU is going to lack talent in the future? If that makes you sleep better at night you go on ahead

Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2122 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:43 am to
It is interesting. Although not sure Keeley sticks.
Posted by Laffy Taffy Tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2019
1146 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:37 am to
Why are you worried about us what is your recruiting ranking?
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
4716 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 4:33 pm to
Didn’t 2022 just wrap up?? I have zero concern for 2023. Wake me up in December of 2022 then we can reevaluate.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:32 pm to
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LSU just landed the 6th overall class


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Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14826 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:13 pm to
What I was told that Kelly couldn't recruit to Notre Dame due to restrictions! Yet this new Notre Dame has never been a HC and he is already killing it! Huge difference when Kelly was there and wasn't killing it! Yet he loses in the championship game in a blowout fashion. It was due to lack of talents. LSU fans were saying it is harder to recruit at Notre Dame and much easier to recruit at LSU. That is true! But how can you explain this new Notre Dame HC is killing it and never been a HC. What was missing? Then how come Notre Dame is currently being ranked in the top 10 and LSU not?
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
18887 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 7:43 pm to
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Huge difference when Kelly was there and wasn't killing it! Yet he loses in the championship game in a blowout fashion. It was due to lack of talents


So Kelly has won more games with less “talents” than any Notre Dame coach?

The “talents” he will get in Louisiana are better than what he got up there regardless of stars. Due to the “talents” they already have I expect them to be a tough out for anyone this year.

You hang your hat on recruiting too much, but that’s all your coach has to hang his job hopes on now, so I guess it’s understandable…..
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14826 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:03 pm to
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So Kelly has won more games with less “talents” than any Notre Dame coach?

The “talents” he will get in Louisiana are better than what he got up there regardless of stars. Due to the “talents” they already have I expect them to be a tough out for anyone this year.

You hang your hat on recruiting too much, but that’s all your coach has to hang his job hopes on now, so I guess it’s understandable…..

You're missing the point. LSU fans were saying Kelly had less talents to work with due to restrictions at Notre Dame. But this new HC with no HC experience was able to get 2 5* and 7 4* already and has his team ranked in the top 10! Yet LSU isn't ranked in the top 10. Why excuses will LSU get when Notre Dame gets into a better bowl game and ended up ranked higher than LSU at the end of the season?
Also, Notre Dame didn't lose players like LSU did when both Notre Dame and LSU had new HC. Maybe Kelly wasn't that popular at Notre Dame since he didn't get a championship at Notre Dame. Maybe just maybe Kelly might luck out at LSU to get one down the road. LSU have no problem with recruiting a top 10 recruiting classes. It is why Kelly failed at Notre Dame and this new HC is killing it in recruiting when Kelly couldn't do it there when he was the HC.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
18887 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:13 pm to
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You're missing the point. LSU fans were saying Kelly had less talents to work with due to restrictions at Notre Dame. But this new HC with no HC experience was able to get 2 5* and 7 4* already and has his team ranked in the top 10! Yet LSU isn't ranked in the top 10. Why excuses will LSU get when Notre Dame gets into a better bowl game and ended up ranked higher than LSU at the end of the season?


Notre Dame’s name recruits itself up there. The quality of athletes is better down south. And the dude got a late start in his new job at LSU.

Stars are overrated and if that’s what’s most important to a program then they aren’t coaching well, unless they are Bama or Georgia right now. They get the best players at this time.

Kelly has won wherever he’s been, no reason to believe it won’t happen at LSU.

Why do you want other coaches to fail? …. I know, but I just thought I’d ask…
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14826 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:22 pm to
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Notre Dame’s name recruits itself up there. The quality of athletes is better down south. And the dude got a late start in his new job at LSU.

Stars are overrated and if that’s what’s most important to a program then they aren’t coaching well, unless they are Bama or Georgia right now. They get the best players at this time.

Kelly has won wherever he’s been, no reason to believe it won’t happen at LSU.

Why do you want other coaches to fail? …. I know, but I just thought I’d ask…


I guess you saw Kelly's recruiting classes at Notre Dame and compare to this new HC's recruiting class? Huge difference. I guess you act like Kelly and Notre Dame new HC were recruiting the same talents when Kelly wasn't lighting it up on recruiting 10 talents like the new HC is doing right now. I think the new Notre Dame HC is a better recruiter and possible a better HC overall. The last 2 HCs at LSU have not failed to recruit in the top 10. LSU actually recruit itself. It is by far easier to recruit at LSU than at Notre Dame.

Just pointing out the situation. I was not happy that Kelly took away one of the DT and he isn't going to stop any time soon. He has a reputation from taking St. Louis top recruits and that is going to get really ugly if he tries to do this again at LSU where he doesn't need to do that while at LSU.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 8:57 pm
Posted by Miznoz
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2018
2127 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:49 pm to
one below yours.
Posted by Tigerbait1977
Fort Worth, Texas
Member since Jun 2020
2959 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:52 pm to
Your point is so invalid. You do realize most of those commits to ‘23 class for Notre Dame committed to Notre Dame when KELLY was HC?

Kelly to LSU wasn’t leaked until 11/29/21. Let’s take a look at some these commitment dates for these Notre Dame players:

6/28/21 5 star
11/3/21 5 star
6/29/21 high 4 star
8/15/21 4 star
9/2/21 4 star
9/22/21 4 star

All of those guys above committed to Notre Dame when Kelly was HC.

Freeman as HC has a 3 star and medium 4 star committed to him for the 23’ class.

Your point is invalid.

In fact, you proved that Kelly was building a monster class even with the academic issues at Notre Dame before he left.


This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 8:58 pm
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1115 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:00 pm to
most likely notre dame is just figuring out the NIL landscape, and this would have happened regardless of coach.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
18887 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:01 pm to
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Your point is so invalid.


Thanks for the clarification….
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14826 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:01 pm to
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Your point is so invalid. You do realize most of those commits to ‘23 class for Notre Dame committed to Notre Dame when KELLY was HC?

Kelly to LSU wasn’t leaked until 11/29/21. Let’s take a look at some these commitment dates for these Notre Dame players:

6/28/21 5 star
11/3/21 5 star
6/29/21 high 4 star
8/15/21 4 star
9/2/21 4 star
9/22/21 4 star

All of those guys above committed to Notre Dame when Kelly was HC.

Freeman as HC has a 3 star and medium 4 star committed to him for the 23’ class.

Your point is invalid.

In fact, you proved that Kelly was building a monster class even with the academic issues at Notre Dame before he left.

Why they didn't decommitted and go to LSU? Like a lot of LSU recruits and players left but at Notre Dame not much at all.
Posted by Tigerbait1977
Fort Worth, Texas
Member since Jun 2020
2959 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:05 pm to
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Why they didn't decommitted and go to LSU? Like a lot of LSU recruits and players left but at Notre Dame not much at all.


Notre Dame and LSU are entirely different. Notre Dame players commit to Notre Dame not just because they want to play football there, but for the academics. That Notre Dame degree is a big thing.

Secondly it’s not like Notre Dame and LSU are close by each other. Your talking about serious distance. Also Notre Dame kept mostly there entire on field staff.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
18887 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 9:31 pm to
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Why they didn't decommitted and go to LSU? Like a lot of LSU recruits and players left but at Notre Dame not much at all.


Why didn’t the Appalachian State players follow drinkwitz?

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