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re: Cam Robinson commits to Alabama
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:36 am to TheDrunkenTigah
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:36 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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It can easily be debated. Bama has had more success on the field but not without a few breaks. LSU is a few bounces away from the same success.
On the OL, Bama has had more highly rated talent and LSU has had a bad rash of injuries. La'el will prove that if a guy has the talent LSU can get him to the first round.
Not trying to be a dick, but you just posted excuses as to why we are out ahead, not evidence that we are on equal footing program wise. It's ok to admit it. It isn't a slight against LSU. There have been very few programs that have had a run like ours in history. Have we been lucky? You bet your arse we have. But that doesn't change on the field results.
As for Collins, I could be wrong, but I thought I had been seeing a late first early second grade on him. Considering he hasn't played LT since high school that makes sense. Could he dominate this year and be a top 15 pick? Yes absolutely. But that much remains to be seen. Even with him having success, and I'm sure he will, CyKo will be drafted higher.
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:40 am to Patton
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Even with him having success, and I'm sure he will, CyKo will be drafted higher.
Eric Fisher does not agree with this statement.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:41 am to npt817
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Take off the blinders buddy.
Both LSU and Bama field teams year in and year out that can contend for a National Championship.
The past several years, the LSU/Bama game has had SEC Championship and National Championship implications riding on it.
Both are great programs who consistently send talent to the NFL.
If everything else were to remain equal at both schools except move one team over to SEC East, I would say we would see each other battle for the SEC Crown more often than not, with the winner going to play for a Natty.
If everything else were to remain equal at both schools except move one team over to a different conference, we would each be playing for a National Championship more often than not.
That's all good and well but when you are comparing programs, one has three of the last four national titles, dispute how we got them, no one can argue that they are ours. Sorry, but it's pretty clear that we have an edge, and maybe a sizable one. Maybe.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:42 am to npt817
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Eric Fisher does not agree with this statement.
That's the kid that went first overall last year right?
Please exain how he has anything to do with this current conversation we are having.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:46 am to Patton
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That's all good and well but when you are comparing programs, one has three of the last four national titles, dispute how we got them, no one can argue that they are ours. Sorry, but it's pretty clear that we have an edge, and maybe a sizable one. Maybe.
Im not on the bandwagon of saying yall only won because you got breaks. Every team needs breaks to happen.
But what I will say is that only one team can win a National Championship each year. That does not mean the gap is that far between the rest of the top teams. Especially when the system in place does not bode well when two of the best teams are in the same conference and same division.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:49 am to Patton
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Please exain how he has anything to do with this current conversation we are having.
You stated that even with Collins showing out this year that CyKo would still be drafted higher.
Everyone thought Joeckel was number one pick going into the draft until Fisher came along.
Just saying anything can happen.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:50 am to npt817
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But what I will say is that only one team can win a National Championship each year. That does not mean the gap is that far between the rest of the top teams. Especially when the system in place does not bode well when two of the best teams are in the same conference and same division.
I am of the belief that we are the two best programs because we are in the same division. The fierce competition not only on the field, but also in the living rooms of athletes across the south east is what drives us to heights we haven't seen before.
Iron sharpens Iron.
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:50 am to Patton
Fisher was recruited to UCM by Butch Jones who now coaches Tennessee - Bama's rival. Fisher hopes that Collins gets drafted higher than Cyrus thereby helping LSU gain recruiting momentum against their division opponent - Bama. This would indirectly help Tennessee and Fisher's former coach. Duh!
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:50 am to npt817
Great then frick Bama & LSU Big Cam should go to Central Michigan
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:52 am to BuccWildBammer
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Great then frick Bama & LSU Big Cam should go to Central Michigan
Ill accept that outcome as well.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:52 am to npt817
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You stated that even with Collins showing out this year that CyKo would still be drafted higher.
Everyone thought Joeckel was number one pick going into the draft until Fisher came along.
Just saying anything can happen.
Ok I see now. I shouldn't have said CyKo will be drafted higher. No one knows that for sure. I'm just basing my prediction on evaluations I have heard and read about this up coming draft. I know those are far from foolproof but is all we have to go on as of today. Collins could very well kick some major arse this season and be a top 5 pick, but I like the odds of CyKo being selected higher.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:54 am to sarc
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:54 am to npt817
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You stated that even with Collins showing out this year that CyKo would still be drafted higher.
Everyone thought Joeckel was number one pick going into the draft until Fisher came along.
Just saying anything can happen.
CyKo is actually a proven college Left Tackle, so let's pump the brakes on Collins for a moment. I'm high on him, but let's see him prove it before we put him in the same conversation as Kouandjio in terms of the NFL.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:54 am to npt817
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Football wise, LSU and Bama are on equal ground.
So winning 3 out of the last 4 national championships is "on equal ground" with not winning a BCS game since 2007?
Posted on 8/28/13 at 12:00 pm to bigpapamac
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So winning 3 out of the last 4 national championships is "on equal ground" with not winning a BCS game since 2007?
Just wait until they get the DREAM TEAM together
Posted on 8/28/13 at 12:01 pm to AlaTiger
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Landon Collins, for example. Well, now he has broken up with the girlfriend and he still isn't starting, so much of Saban's pitch did not materialize
Set to play Money, apparently. Almost everyone is confident he'll push Sunseri out of his starting job soon enough. In ways, he's in a similar situation as HaHa last year. HaHa eventually pushed Sunseri to the side, LC should do the same.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 12:27 pm to sarc
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What I want to know is that if Bama is so obviously cheating, how did LSU manage to close so much ground with CRob over the last 2 months?
I never said that Alabama was cheating. I already said that I don't know if what Saban was doing was illegal. It most likely isn't.
I am actually complimenting Saban. He knows how to get the job done. Bama fans think, however, that all Saban needs to do is show up in a recruits living room and he can turn anyone. It doesn't work that way. He is as good as he is because he works his but off and he works EVERY angle. Then, others come in and work every other angle too. It is how college football is these days.
And, yes, I think that LSU does it too. I just don't think that LSU is as good at it or as comprehensive as Saban/Alabama are. He has built a machine there. It is what it is.
Good thing we still play the game.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 12:29 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
[quote]Set to pay Money[/quote
i hope we are not paying him money..tighten up
i hope we are not paying him money..tighten up
Posted on 8/28/13 at 12:30 pm to AlaTiger
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I never said that Alabama was cheating. I already said that I don't know if what Saban was doing was illegal. It most likely isn't.
How do you know exactly what Saban is doing?
Posted on 8/28/13 at 12:33 pm to bigpapamac
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So winning 3 out of the last 4 national championships is "on equal ground" with not winning a BCS game since 2007?
We aren't blind. We know who has the titles. What makes me laugh, though, is that Bama fans are not happy until every other fanbase admits that we effectively do not even have a football program compared to yours.
Whatever.
You and I both know that the only real challenge you will face all year will be against LSU in November. If Bama is SO FAR out in front of LSU that game would be seen the same way you see the Ole Miss game.
The sad thing is, you know that you can lose that game and still make it to the national championship game because LSU has a gauntlet to run through and you don't. So, just like 2011, it really doesn't matter who is better on the field.
(See what I did there? I made this about scheduling!)
Just kidding. Carry on.
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