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re: Alabama C Brandon Kennedy transferring

Posted on 5/13/18 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by prisonpunk
Member since Dec 2013
1598 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 1:00 pm to
A GRADUATE student should be allowed to transfer wherever they want.
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4181 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 1:16 pm to
I honestly think any kid should be able to transfer wherever they want. I agree with the sit-out rule to prevent a mass free market but you shouldn’t be able to block which school a kid wants to go to. Another hypocritical stance in relation to the ‘they are student-athletes’ position - shouldn’t students be allowed to stidy where they want??
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72162 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

A GRADUATE student should be allowed to transfer wherever they want.


Kennedy was already taking graduate classes at Alabama. So this is purely over playing time.
Posted by prisonpunk
Member since Dec 2013
1598 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 8:08 pm to
I don't know why Saban has to be such a douche about it. Nick Harvey just transferred from A&M to South Carolina. I didn't see anybody throwing a fit about that.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72162 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 8:14 pm to
I do not think it would be as big of an issue if it wasn't former assistants.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42618 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

So, it appears that the days of blocking intra conference transfers are over?



Graduates shouldn't be blocked anyway. I doubt this effects regular transfers who haven't graduated.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

remember having to wait my turn because I was a younger player but that’s not the way kids are now.


Cool story bro, just not sure how it applies to a potential grad transfer who already has a medical redshirt
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
19126 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

A GRADUATE student should be allowed to transfer wherever they want.


quote:

Kennedy was already taking graduate classes at Alabama. So this is purely over playing time.



The way I look at it...if you complete your undergraduate degree at the school and have done your part to compete on the team during that time, you have met your obligation to the Letter of Intent. You should be allowed to move on to better your chances of getting playing time and making it to the next level.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:55 pm to
Helll no...you don't glean from bama in spring and an enemy in the fall...I dont give a crap about your academic standing
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 2:34 am to
This will come back to bite the Vols or Barn.. wait until one of their players wants to finally win a national championship and transfers to Bama. It will open Pandoras box within the SEC. Trey Smith come on over
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:58 pm to
He's going to be a duck
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:03 pm to
He's going to be a duck
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:22 pm to
Teams are going to stop coaching up the graduate backups
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 9:23 am to
Imo, if the NCAA eliminates transfer release and contact restrictions on grad transfers (which appears likely), they should also make another rule change:

When a school loses a player via grad transfer, they should be allowed to bring in a grad transfer player, or a juco transfer player who's eligibility doesn't exceed that of the departing player, without it costing them an initial counter spot.

The reasoning: The school already spent an initial counter spot to obtain the full four-year eligibility of the departing player. It seems unfair for the school to have to spend another IC spot that could otherwise be used to add a HS player with four years of eligibility. The 85 total counters limit still keeps the school from gaining anything. It's simply to provide the school with a fair ability to equitably replace the player that they lost.

ETA: That grad transfer replacement exception should already be in the rules, imo. A school who loses a grad transfer typically takes a hit to their experienced depth and should have a fair ability to mitigate it without taking another hit. It'll be needed even more if grad transfer restrictions are eliminated, because it will be more likely a school could lose several grad transfers every year. The cumulative adverse impact of that would be significant.

I'm not opposed to more freedom for grads to transfer, IF programs are at least able to equitably replace the loss of those grad players without incurring a defacto penalty for doing so.

Consider a program that loses its HC and most if not all of his staff too. Recruiting usually suffers, including loss of some top commits. If that program's players who have their degree are free to transfer anywhere and can be contacted freely by other schools, it seems likely that some schools will seize the opportunity to "recruit" them and that they'd be fairly inclined to jump ship.

Again, imo a grad transfer replacement exception rule (like I described) should already exist. I think it definitely needs to be added if/when the NCCA eiminates grad transfer restrictions. There's too much risk of programs being hit by numerous grad tranfers to not have that.
This post was edited on 6/2/18 at 7:56 pm
Posted by aufbfan
Member since Jan 2015
760 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

This will come back to bite the Vols or Barn.. wait until one of their players wants to finally win a national championship and transfers to Bama.
lol @ being salty about this and pretending Auburn doesn’t compete for titles.

Bama already goes balls out buying the best HS players every year, many of whom were taken to simply keep away from their rivals.

They mad this potentially hurts the advantage they get from their historically most crucial practice that made their program what it is today.
Posted by aufbfan
Member since Jan 2015
760 posts
Posted on 6/2/18 at 9:59 pm to
I mean, hell, Saban already allowed undergraduate RB Corey Grant to transfer to Auburn (without blocking and forcing a 2-year sit out) because Corey and his family threatened to expose how Saban “convinced” him to spurn Auburn for an offense he never fit into in the first place out of HS.

Seems more kids should just strong-arm him like that and future situations like this could be avoided.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

He's going to be a duck

Or perhaps a Panther.

This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

I mean, hell, Saban already allowed undergraduate RB Corey Grant to transfer to Auburn (without blocking and forcing a 2-year sit out) because Corey and his family threatened to expose how Saban “convinced” him to spurn Auburn for an offense he never fit into in the first place out of HS.


Link please
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:55 pm to
quote:


Bama already goes balls out buying the best HS players


Maybe we should buy the best JUCOs as well and follow the title success of AU
Posted by BarnHardU
Member since Oct 2016
111 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 3:49 pm to
Corey Grant walked on to Auburn, didn’t he?
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