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Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:46 pm to AA7
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:46 pm to AA7
quote:Penn State must've been doing some illegal shite, because you're right. NCAA didn't even investigate and PSU was OK with the sanctions. It could've gotten much worse, IMO.
It's probably because the NCAA didn't even investigate PSU. All they had to do was come up with the sanctions.
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:46 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:The NCAA and Emmert does what they want. I guess the FBI had enough evidence that the NCAA didn't have to investigate.
I forgot about Miami. How'd PSU get an NCAA ruling before they did?
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:07 pm to Rabern57
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I guess the FBI had enough evidence that the NCAA didn't have to investigate.
This.
The NCAA decided that the Freeh Report (being an internal investigation) was enough evidence to proceed with and didn't bother with a hearing. They made PSU sign something saying that they were okay with it and waived their right to appeal.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:13 pm to Rabern57
They had like a full report of what happened. The PSU board hired an outside party. There was pretty much no need for an investigation. That's why they acted so quick.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:15 pm to AA7
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It's probably because the NCAA didn't even investigate PSU
Probably because the Freeh Report did all the investigation for them.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:19 pm to Rabern57
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Penn State must've been doing some illegal shite
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I guess the FBI had enough evidence that the NCAA didn't have to investigate.
Seriously? Have you not paid any attention to this whole thing?
In short, Penn St didn't actually even break any NCAA rules. The NCAA said the issue at hand was so one a kind, for lack of better words, that they felt they had to do something. I thought they should have stayed out of it all together, because it's a criminal issue, and the NCAA has never enforced any kind of penalty for a criminal issue, but that's an argument for another thread.
They didn't do an investigation. The info they went on was from the Freeh report, which was done by Louis Freeh, who used to be the head of the FBI from 93-01. From what I've read, it's been speculated that the NCAA wanted to give them the death penalty, but Penn St said we'll agree to whatever penalty you give us, and not protest the decision, if you don't do that. The current Penn St president said it was unanimous amongst the Penn St administration and trustees, but some trustees have said they had no input. Needless to say, it's pretty bad situation for everyone involved in this whole thing.
back to cruitin...
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:25 pm to kage
Frick Penn St, and that shithead joepa.
I am excited about our 2013 class.
I am excited about our 2013 class.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:29 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I was more of a bobby bowden fan myself
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:31 pm to kage
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In short, Penn St didn't actually even break any NCAA rules
You could argue, and probably rightfully so, that they violated 10.01.1: Ethical conduct. It's fairly ambiguous and is written in a way that they can consider anything unethical.
Bottom line, they didn't do what they should have done. They didn't do it because they didn't want the negative attention and any fallout for the football program. By insulating themselves from a problem they SHOULD have dealt with, they gave themselves an unfair opportunity to recruit players who might have otherwise not considered them.
It's a dotted line and definitely indirect, but they have no one to blame but themselves.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:38 pm to Stanky Legg
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You could argue, and probably rightfully so, that they violated 10.01.1: Ethical conduct. It's fairly ambiguous and is written in a way that they can consider anything unethical.
Bottom line, they didn't do what they should have done. They didn't do it because they didn't want the negative attention and any fallout for the football program. By insulating themselves from a problem they SHOULD have dealt with, they gave themselves an unfair opportunity to recruit players who might have otherwise not considered them.
It's a dotted line and definitely indirect, but they have no one to blame but themselves
I won't argue against the fact that they completely failed to do what they should have done, but I personally don't think they violated the spirit of the rule. It went far beyond just the football team, imo.
I, and many other folks, think the precedent they've now set where they have ruled on something criminal, which they've never done before, is a little scary. I just think the NCAA overstepped their boundaries.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:45 pm to kage
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I, and many other folks, think the precedent they've now set where they have ruled on something criminal,
The ruling wasn't based on the crime of child molestation.
It was based on covering up the crime to benefit the football program.
Big difference.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:46 pm to kage
Don Jones, the NCAA attorney out of Montgomery, basically said all the same things the other day on Fbaum. That guy nailed the Cam Newton case and he seemed to nail this PSU stuff too.
Saw something about Ricky Seals-Jones. What's the deal on that kid? We have a legit shot?
Saw something about Ricky Seals-Jones. What's the deal on that kid? We have a legit shot?
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:48 pm to Aubie Spr96
Auburn has made a push for him and he might come visit AU. Long shot at best right now. Coaches are working this one though.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:56 pm to TTsTowel
quote:Well how bad would it sound for Penn St to say, "No, we shouldn't get sanctions for allowing children to be molested." Part of it is PR, it looks terrible to argue against any ruling. They want to move past this whole thing
Penn State must've been doing some illegal shite, because you're right. NCAA didn't even investigate and PSU was OK with the sanctions
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:57 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:He has a top 3 of Texas, aTm, and LSU. We contacted him and want him to visit. It's a long shot IMO
Saw something about Ricky Seals-Jones. What's the deal on that kid? We have a legit shot?
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:11 pm to AMM AU9893
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Saw something about Ricky Seals-Jones. What's the deal on that kid? We have a legit shot?
quote:I read that he didn't look very special at the latest camp, IIRC. Either way, I doubt Auburn is on his radar.
He has a top 3 of Texas, aTm, and LSU. We contacted him and want him to visit. It's a long shot IMO
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:16 pm to TTsTowel
quote:From The Opening:
I read that he didn't look very special at the latest camp
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Like Treadwell, Ricky Seals-Jones proved to one of the best big receivers on hand. While he may not ultimately play wide receiver, he showed the ability to dominate on high-point, 50-50 balls, and the open field speed to maximize receptions. Texas, Texas A&M and LSU are in contention for the talented Texan.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:20 pm to AMM AU9893
I'm going to have to dig, but I definitely heard he wasn't as impressive as his ranking.
I've never seen film on him or anything, so I can't say what I actually think of him. I just know he's a big, big kid. He was orginally commited to Texas, correct?
I've never seen film on him or anything, so I can't say what I actually think of him. I just know he's a big, big kid. He was orginally commited to Texas, correct?
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:23 pm to Rig
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It's probably because the NCAA didn't even investigate PSU
Probably because the Freeh Report did all the investigation for them.
Didn't Yahoo do all the investigation for the NCAA for the Miami case?
Make no mistake, the PSU stuff landed with the quickness purely for PR matters.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:27 pm to TTsTowel
quote:Yeah, he was. Maybe you're thinking of Tyrone Swoopes, the QB/ATH committed to Texas who really struggled in camps this summer. But you should check out RSJ's film, he's a HS Vince Young running the ball
I've never seen film on him or anything, so I can't say what I actually think of him. I just know he's a big, big kid. He was orginally commited to Texas, correct?
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 11:28 pm
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