re: 2013 Alabama Football Recruiting Thread - DH Decommited from UGA

Posted by AA7

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:39 pm to MagillaGuerilla

Defensive players definitely have the advantage. They can go as far inside or outside as they want because they don't have to worry about anyone in their way and they don't wear pads so the OL can't really grab onto anything.

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Posted by Big Bam

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:42 pm to AA7

Lucky: Thoughts on Reuben Foster

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It seems like everyday there's a new update on Reuben Foster. Everyone in the industry wants a quote and share a perspective. Reuben is a great football player and by changing schools for his senior campaign, and the constant unofficial visits, there's s obviously going to be good fodder for all kinds of speculation.

Personally, I think it has gotten out of hand over the past couple weeks -- and most of this is on the heels of Foster taking unofficial or casual visits to Georgia and Auburn. I don't think it is a good use of time to try and followup and follow every word on this subject until something substantive occurs. Here's some thoughts:

-- As Charles has said on many occasions, it should be status quo until Foster publicly says he is no longer committed to Alabama. That has not occurred and in fact, most of his comments have been extremely favorable toward Alabama.

-- Those that think Foster is a lock to sign with Alabama are dead wrong. Even though he is committed, Auburn and Georgia have made Foster a top target and there is obvious reciprocal interest from Foster. This is far from done and it will be until he signs on the dotted line.

-- There's a wide array of opinions from the industry (those that interview him) on where Foster will ultimately sign. The majority is slightly saying Alabama, but there's plenty of experts, including some I have great respect for, that feel he ends up somewhere other than Alabama.

-- Don't read too much into the "story of the day" or the "tweet of the day" regarding Foster. I know Dee Liner's comments fanned the flames and then according to Tweets there appears to be a rebuttal. My point is that I wouldn't get caught up into the day to day and back and forth of what's going on with Foster. There's probably a lot of created drama here just for the sensationalism affect.

So, to sum it all up. Here's what I believe to be true at this point. (1) Until Foster publicly de-commits, Alabama should be considered the favorite despite the various reports and how many visits to other schools he takes; (2) this is going to be a dogfight to the very end from Auburn, Georgia and who knows, other schools could join; (3) anyone that says, reports or infers that Foster is a lock (or, a done deal) to Alabama is smoking a team-flavored cigar -- that's just not the case. This is a fluid situation that's subject to change, or could stay the way it is.

Sit back and enjoy the ride, but I wouldn't get too overly anxious one way or the other ...

Posted by MagillaGuerilla

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:46 pm to AA7

I know it's just 1 camp, but he's going up against some of the best and he's not showing out. They said he looked great physically coming in, so I take it's not an issue of conditioning or strength. Someone posted he didn't take another rep after getting bodyslammed by someone.

That verbal offer may not be on the table long if he keeps this up. Last time Bama's OC evaluates a DT for an offer

Posted by Tim7105

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:49 pm to Big Bam

He is worrying me though. I don't get how so many guys have "interest" in us but so many elite guys end up elsewhere. Sure we sign our share but its not like we should be getting. Honestly a guy committed to us as long as Foster has been shouldn't even be considering programs like Auburn and Georgia right now. Same thing with losing guys to Clemson etc.

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Posted by AMM AU9893

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:52 pm to Tim7105

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He is worrying me though. I don't get how so many guys have "interest" in us but so many elite guys end up elsewhere. Sure we sign our share but its not like we should be getting. Honestly a guy committed to us as long as Foster has been shouldn't even be considering programs like Auburn and Georgia right now. Same thing with losing guys to Clemson etc.

Dude, Bama has the #1 class in the nation. Do you think that Bama should get every single top guy?

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Posted by BamaChick

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:54 pm to Tim7105

Oh.

You are one of "those guys".

Posted by Big Bam

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:54 pm to Tim7105

I'm concerned with this lingering knee injury that he just can't seem to shake. He needs to get that thing scoped quick. This is a muti-million dollar prospect sure fire first round NFL pick. Why in the hell would someone let this knee injury go untreated?

Posted by SoGaFan

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:56 pm to AMM AU9893

Alabama also "offers" a ridiculous amount of recruits so yeah, they will say they have interest in Bama even if that interest isn't necessarily reciprocated.

oh, yeah, and Wiggins will be Safety...all the way....

Posted by crimson008

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:56 pm to Big Bam

McNeil calling OJ out?

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Josh McNeil ?@BIBTY_12
I am the best TE in the nation BY FAR!!!!! and @rivalsmike knows it

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Posted by SoGaFan

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:57 pm to crimson008

I am thinking your sarcasm meter is broken.

Posted by Tim7105

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:58 pm to AMM AU9893

No but for as dominate as we have been I don't feel like we are signing enough of the Big (IE top 10-15 guys) every year.

We sign a great class of deep guys but even the biggest Bama homers realize we have having trouble signing the Bluest of the Blue Chips the past three classes.

And these kids aren't choosing better programs they are in most cases taking the easy way out.

Clowney - USCjr, Allen - Cal, Kiel - Indiana then Notre Dame, Cyrus - Auburn before Us, Nkemdiche - Clemson.

What is the disconnect that are making the very top tier make absolutely stupid decisions and we have to dig tooth and nail to even keep them?

What is giving off the impression that these elite guys do not want to come to Bama?

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Posted by TTsTowel

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:01 pm to Tim7105

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No but literally we sign a great class of deep guys but even the biggest Bama homers realize we have having trouble signing the Bluest of the Blue Chips the past three classes.

shite happens, this is recruiting after all...

Alabama isn't always going to get who they want without a fight from someone else.

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And these kids aren't choosing better programs they are in most cases taking the easy way out.

Dude, seriously?

Posted by Big Bam

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:02 pm to crimson008

McNeil will get to prove it when both are at Bama next year.

Posted by tylerdurden24

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:02 pm to Tim7105

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And these kids aren't choosing better programs they are in most cases taking the easy way out.

oh my god, are you serious? Academics, location, depth chart, tradition, relationships with coaches, etc. all plays a role. Bama can't hit all those notes for every guy. Is that so hard to understand?

For example: Who was the lat great Bama QB? Like honestly a great Stafford/Manning/Wuerffel type guy? Bama's O just doesn't cater to a QB happy offense so it won't attract the #1 QB every year (or even most years)

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Posted by dawg4lyfe

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:03 pm to Tim7105

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And these kids aren't choosing better programs they are in most cases taking the easy way out.

Really??

Posted by AMM AU9893

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:03 pm to Tim7105

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No but literally we sign a great class of deep guys but even the biggest Bama homers realize we have having trouble signing the Bluest of the Blue Chips the past three classes.

Landon Collins, TJ Yeldon, Cyrus Kouandjio, Eddie Williams, Clinton-Dix, and Trey DePreist are the Bluest of the Blue Chips. And that's just some of them. I seriously have no idea what you are talking about unless you believe Bama should sign every single one of the Top 25 guys in the nation. USC is maybe the only team that gets as many or more blue chip guys than Bama.

And the ones that Bama misses on take the easy way out? Sorry bud, but not every prospect sees Bama as the best for them. They go where they feel comfortable, and that's not always going to be Bama

Posted by Big Bam

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:05 pm to TTsTowel

A lot of these kids are choosing other programs for playing time, believe that. That isn't taking the easy way out as ole boy is claiming. I ain't even mad tho. Bama won without them, they'll continue to do so.

Posted by Tim7105

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Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:05 pm to tylerdurden24

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oh my god, are you serious? Academics, location, depth chart, tradition, relationships with coaches, etc. all plays a role. Bama can't hit all those notes for every guy. Is that so hard to understand?

But even probability wise we would hit on a few of them. Saban's first two classes 08/09 have a very different feel than the last three/four if you count 2013. Its like the elite kids have interest in us but then don't want to come here and when they do decide they want to come here its almost impossible to keep them interested.