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Posted on 5/22/12 at 7:57 pm to Tigerbait357
Everybody is a distant second
Posted on 5/22/12 at 8:01 pm to TreyAnastasio
Every recruit is Bama lock 
Posted on 5/22/12 at 8:03 pm to Tigerbait357
This one is
Posted on 5/22/12 at 8:14 pm to Tigerbait357
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Bama lock
Indeed.
Posted on 5/22/12 at 8:18 pm to Tigerbait357
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Every recruit is Bama lock
You got the right idea.
Posted on 5/22/12 at 8:44 pm to TideSaint
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Who wants a 310 lb DE?
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"Hubbhogg raises hand slowly while making a confused face."
Posted on 5/23/12 at 8:11 am to Hubbhogg
Insert smile, "LSU puts out D Linemen 24/7, LSU plays crazy defense and that is how we play it". 
Posted on 5/23/12 at 9:10 am to Nissanmaxima
The fact that RN will grow into a 300 pounder doesn't need to be brought up on the LSURB, that doesn't fit the propaganda machine of "he's a much better fit in a 4-3" What they fail to realize is that montgomery and mingo will be the first 2 3-4 outside linebackers drafted 
3-4 is the tits
3-4 is the tits
Posted on 5/23/12 at 9:10 am to Nissanmaxima
DP
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 10:38 am
Posted on 5/23/12 at 9:56 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Nice DP
Who are the top 2014 RBs outside of Fournette, Bo, and Sony?
Who are the top 2014 RBs outside of Fournette, Bo, and Sony?
Posted on 5/23/12 at 10:01 am to Analyze That
Posted on 5/23/12 at 10:24 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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What they fail to realize is that montgomery and mingo will be the first 2 3-4 outside linebackers drafted
Sam Montgomery will play with his hand on the ground in the NFL.
Mingo is almost an outlier because he has such a quick first step AND great straight line speed, and size-wise he's a true tweener. I'm not sure he's going to get any zone responsibilities in a 3-4 so while he "may" play standing up on Sundays, he's going to be primarily a pass rusher at that level (and he has improved his run defense from his early, wild days). If he's drafted into a 3-4 defense - he'll lose a little weight and focus on maintaining quickness - if he ends up on a 4-3 defense, he'll gain weight and focus on getting stronger.
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3-4 is the tits
IF you can get the guys to run it correctly.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 11:16 am to Prominentwon
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Who wants a 310 lb DE?
Um...
I'll take another one of those all day baby.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:09 pm to Ace Midnight
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Sam Montgomery will play with his hand on the ground in the NFL.
Mingo is almost an outlier because he has such a quick first step AND great straight line speed, and size-wise he's a true tweener. I'm not sure he's going to get any zone responsibilities in a 3-4 so while he "may" play standing up on Sundays, he's going to be primarily a pass rusher at that level (and he has improved his run defense from his early, wild days). If he's drafted into a 3-4 defense - he'll lose a little weight and focus on maintaining quickness - if he ends up on a 4-3 defense, he'll gain weight and focus on getting stronger.
I have to disagree here, there are guys a lot bigger than montgomery playing OLB in the 3-4. Most of the NFL's 3-4 schemes have one guy that is primarily a pass rusher anyway and plays with his hand in the dirt 50% of the time. Montgomery can be that guy. Both he and mingo will need to add a lot of bulk if they want to be an every down 4-3 DE in the NFL because offensive tackles will laugh at a guy weighing 250-260 trying to stop the run. If they end up in a 4-3 defense (highly unlikely IMO) then they will be situational players, and you don't draft a guy in the first round to play on 3rd downs. Clowney is another guy that will end up standing up once he gets to the NFL. While they are athletic freaks they just don't have the bulk to beat a grown man blowing off the ball on a running play.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:15 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
I don't see the point in predicting whether or not a guy like Montgomery or Clowney will stand up at the next level or continue playing with their hand in the dirt. A lot of it depends on what team drafts them. Robert Ayers, former Tennessee defensive end, was drafted by the Broncos as a 34 outside linebacker, and now that we have changed back to a 43 defense he's a defensive end.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:19 pm to Ace Midnight
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IF you can get the guys to run it correctly.
The only position that is really hard to recruit a quality guy at in every cycle is noseguard. The 3-4 needs a good one or it doesn't work.
Hell, louisiana produces a slew of guys that fit the 3-4 to a T. Williams, Beckwith and Melvin Jones in this cycle could all be great linebackers in the system and Devall last year.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:22 pm to TTsTowel
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A lot of it depends on what team drafts them
That's kind of the point I was trying to make. I think a 4-3 team would bypass either for another need. All 3 are great pass rushers and suspect against the run. Robert Ayers is a big breakfast away from 280 pounds and built differently than the 3 mentioned
Posted on 5/23/12 at 6:59 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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That's kind of the point I was trying to make. I think a 4-3 team would bypass either for another need
Both are going to go 1st round barring injury. NFL scouts must really like situational players.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 7:07 pm to dljtigers
Bone said Alabama leads followed by Clemson. Expects him to commit to Alabama before senior season.
Grew up a Bama fan.
Grew up a Bama fan.
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 7:08 pm
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