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re: Your lifetime, Your teams program status
Posted on 7/21/11 at 9:17 am to Hawgeye
Posted on 7/21/11 at 9:17 am to Hawgeye
LSU since 1958
406 wins
198 losses
14 ties
67% winning percentage
SEC Titles: 9
National Titles: 3
Bowl games since 1958: 37
Bowl record since 1958: 22-15
BCS Bowl record: 4-0
NYD or later Bowl record: 11-7
In national top ten in attendance: 51 times
Finished in Final Top Ten: 19
Finished in Final Top Five: 10
Finished in Final Top 25: 31
But according to some, we've only been relevant since 2000
406 wins
198 losses
14 ties
67% winning percentage
SEC Titles: 9
National Titles: 3
Bowl games since 1958: 37
Bowl record since 1958: 22-15
BCS Bowl record: 4-0
NYD or later Bowl record: 11-7
In national top ten in attendance: 51 times
Finished in Final Top Ten: 19
Finished in Final Top Five: 10
Finished in Final Top 25: 31
But according to some, we've only been relevant since 2000
This post was edited on 7/21/11 at 9:26 am
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Posted on 7/21/11 at 9:37 am to Hawgeye
1978-2010
288-116-3
.708 winning %
Division Championships - A lot
SEC Championships - 7
National Championships - 4
288-116-3
.708 winning %
Division Championships - A lot
SEC Championships - 7
National Championships - 4
Posted on 7/21/11 at 9:50 am to BamaAlum02
quote:I don't think that is accurate.
1978-2010
288-116-3
Posted on 7/21/11 at 9:53 am to WDE24
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I don't think that is accurate.
I count wins on the field.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 9:56 am to WDE24
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I don't think that is accurate.
It's not
He left out the text-gate vacated wins
21 total
He also left out 1993 forfeited games
8 wins and a tie
I really don't know where he got all that from because it should be 259-125-2 with a 67.358%
so change it to that and add in another NC and SECC and he would be correct.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 9:59 am to BamaAlum02
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I count wins on the field.
Even if Bama had done something wrong to get them?
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:04 am to BamaAlum02
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I count wins on the field.
So then I have a question for ya.
If and I use that strongly, "IF" Auburn ended up having to vacate all wins that Cam played in which would include the National Title Game then would you still count Auburn as National Champions and never doubt that?
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:07 am to RollTide MJ
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:10 am to hehatedrew
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It's a good question though isn't it?
I mean yeah we might have won those games on the field, but we did the crime(s) so you gotta suck it up and say hey we got caught and they took them away, so they don't count.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:11 am to RollTide MJ
Very true 
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:18 am to RollTide MJ
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If and I use that strongly, "IF" Auburn ended up having to vacate all wins that Cam played in which would include the National Title Game then would you still count Auburn as National Champions and never doubt that?
Of course I would not count Auburn's NC. As Doc Holiday said, "My hypocrisy knows no bounds." Or something like that.
Seriously, my opinion would be based on why they were vacated/forfeited.
I've always felt that if a school does something illegal to get a player to campus they should be hammered and the wins should not count because the school gained a competitive advantage by getting a player they might not have gotten otherwise.
If a school or booster gives some free shite to a player already there I don't really care. The players are already there and they are just reaping some benefits of busting their arse 12 months a year.
So in Alabama's case, we were dirty as hell in the Means case and deserved to get hammered. We would not have gotten him had Logan Young not gotten involved (I know he didn't help us win any games but that's not the point). With Langam and the textbooks, no competitive advantage was gained so I have no problem with those wins.
In Auburn's case, if they have to vacate based on paying Cecil for Cam's services, I would say not to count it. If they had to vacate based on the allegations of free suits and $100 handshakes I say they won it.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:26 am to BamaAlum02
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Of course I would not count Auburn's NC. As Doc Holiday said, "My hypocrisy knows no bounds." Or something like that.
Seriously, my opinion would be based on why they were vacated/forfeited.
I've always felt that if a school does something illegal to get a player to campus they should be hammered and the wins should not count because the school gained a competitive advantage by getting a player they might not have gotten otherwise.
If a school or booster gives some free shite to a player already there I don't really care. The players are already there and they are just reaping some benefits of busting their arse 12 months a year.
So in Alabama's case, we were dirty as hell in the Means case and deserved to get hammered. We would not have gotten him had Logan Young not gotten involved (I know he didn't help us win any games but that's not the point). With Langam and the textbooks, no competitive advantage was gained so I have no problem with those wins.
In Auburn's case, if they have to vacate based on paying Cecil for Cam's services, I would say not to count it. If they had to vacate based on the allegations of free suits and $100 handshakes I say they won it.
Okay, so I take it that you don't think that the text-gate thing was "bad enough" to warrant that, which I do agree with somewhat.
But what about the 1993 season forfeits which involved Langham? Everyone knows that we tried to cover all that up and it ended up hurting us for years. I would say that was pretty serious.
With that in mind do you still count the 8 games we had to forfeit that year?
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If a school or booster gives some free shite to a player already there I don't really care. The players are already there and they are just reaping some benefits of busting their arse 12 months a year.
I call bs on that. They are already reaping benefits for busting their arse 12 months a year. It's called a free education.
This post was edited on 7/21/11 at 10:29 am
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:40 am to RollTide MJ
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But what about the 1993 season forfeits which involved Langham? Everyone knows that we tried to cover all that up and it ended up hurting us for years. I would say that was pretty serious.
With that in mind do you still count the 8 games we had to forfeit that year?
I still count them. Again, what competitive advantage was gained? Now I'm not saying I agree with how the administration handled it, but Langham was already a player for us. He got cold feet about going pro and decided to come back. I understand the NCAA had to forfeit the games because of their rules, I just don't agree with it.
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I call bs on that. They are already reaping benefits for busting their arse 12 months a year. It's called a free education.
I got a free education also by way of academic scholarship but I guarantee the football players were working harder and putting in more hours than me and 99% of the other academic scholarship recipients.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:40 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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I'm gonna change it up a bit. The SEC since I was born:
5) Florida 278-9-4
10) Tennessee 260-104-7
11) Auburn 255-104-5
13) UGA 253-108-5
18) Bama 226-122-2
23) LSU 227-128-6
34) Arky 214-143-4
57) Ole Miss 181-165-4
62) USC 174-170-6
Sub .500 teams
79) MSU 155-189-2
88) UK 144-200-3
112) Vandy 101-237-1
I like this type breakdown.
I was born in 1969:
8. Bama
10. Florida
11. UT
12. UGA
13. Auburn
17. LSU
18. Arkansas
54. Ole Miss
57. USCe
79. MSU
84. KY
101. Vandy
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:45 am to BamaAlum02
1989 - 10-2 (6-1)
1990 - 7-5 (5-2)
1991 - 11-1 (6-1)
1992 - 13-0 (9-0)
1993 - 9-3-1 (5-3-1)
1994 - 12-1 (8-1)
1995 - 8-3 (5-3)
1996 - 10-3 (6-3)
1997 - 4-7 (2-6)
1998 - 7-5 (4-4)
1999 - 10-3 (8-1)
2000 - 3-8 (3-5)
2001 - 7-5 (4-4)
2002 - 10-3 (6-2)
2003 - 4-9 (2-6)
2004 - 6-6 (3-5)
2005 - 10-2 (6-2)
2006 - 6-7 (2-6)
2007 - 7-6 (4-4)
2008 - 12-2 (8-1)
2009 - 14-0 (9-0)
2010 - 10-3 (5-3)
RECORD - 190-84-1 (116-63-1)
Overall Winning Percentage - 69.1%
SEC Winning Percentage - 64.4%
Bowl Appearances: 17
Bowl Record: 10-7
Ten-win Seasons (11): 1989, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2002, 2005, 2008, 2009, 2010
New Year's Day Bowls (11): 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1999, 2005, 2008, 2009, 2010
Ranked in final Top 25: 13
Ranked in final Top 10: 9
Ranked in final Top 5: 4
SEC West Championships (7): 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2008, 2009
SEC Championships (4): 1989, 1992, 1999, 2009
National Championships (2): 1992, 2009
Record vs. Auburn - 10-12
Record vs. Tennessee - 10-11-1
1990 - 7-5 (5-2)
1991 - 11-1 (6-1)
1992 - 13-0 (9-0)
1993 - 9-3-1 (5-3-1)
1994 - 12-1 (8-1)
1995 - 8-3 (5-3)
1996 - 10-3 (6-3)
1997 - 4-7 (2-6)
1998 - 7-5 (4-4)
1999 - 10-3 (8-1)
2000 - 3-8 (3-5)
2001 - 7-5 (4-4)
2002 - 10-3 (6-2)
2003 - 4-9 (2-6)
2004 - 6-6 (3-5)
2005 - 10-2 (6-2)
2006 - 6-7 (2-6)
2007 - 7-6 (4-4)
2008 - 12-2 (8-1)
2009 - 14-0 (9-0)
2010 - 10-3 (5-3)
RECORD - 190-84-1 (116-63-1)
Overall Winning Percentage - 69.1%
SEC Winning Percentage - 64.4%
Bowl Appearances: 17
Bowl Record: 10-7
Ten-win Seasons (11): 1989, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2002, 2005, 2008, 2009, 2010
New Year's Day Bowls (11): 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1999, 2005, 2008, 2009, 2010
Ranked in final Top 25: 13
Ranked in final Top 10: 9
Ranked in final Top 5: 4
SEC West Championships (7): 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2008, 2009
SEC Championships (4): 1989, 1992, 1999, 2009
National Championships (2): 1992, 2009
Record vs. Auburn - 10-12
Record vs. Tennessee - 10-11-1
This post was edited on 7/21/11 at 10:46 am
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:46 am to Hawgeye
quote:
Your lifetime, Your teams program status
quote:
Hawgeye
better than yours
This post was edited on 7/21/11 at 10:46 am
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:49 am to MetryTyger
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LSU since 1958
406 wins
198 losses
14 ties
67% winning percentage
SEC Titles: 9
National Titles: 3
Bowl games since 1958: 37
Bowl record since 1958: 22-15
BCS Bowl record: 4-0
NYD or later Bowl record: 11-7
In national top ten in attendance: 51 times
Finished in Final Top Ten: 19
Finished in Final Top Five: 10
Finished in Final Top 25: 31
But according to some, we've only been relevant since 2000
DWI
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:52 am to Hawgeye
Born 1980
Georgia
265-108-5 (70.8)
5 conference titles ('80-'82, 2002, 2005)
3 division titles
1 national title
Georgia
265-108-5 (70.8)
5 conference titles ('80-'82, 2002, 2005)
3 division titles
1 national title
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:04 am to Hawgeye
Hilarious, by every measure Auburn is the number 3 team in the SEC the past ~25 years.
I thought we were irrelevent?
I thought we were irrelevent?
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:05 am to Swoopin
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by every measure Auburn is the number 3 team in the SEC West the past ~25 years.
FTFY
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