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re: Yahoo - Does Alabama have a legitimate gripe about early kickoff times?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 2:46 pm to OldPete
Posted on 9/17/19 at 2:46 pm to OldPete
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Playing at night is tradition for us though
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Playing Tennessee is tradition for us though (it's no less a tradition than LSU's night games). Nobody complained about us playing Tennessee when they were kicking our arse regularly from the mid-90's to the early 2000's (including 7 straight)...
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I don't have any problem with LSU playing all night games as tradition.
I think you can swap Alabama/USM and Arkansas/SJSU or Alabama/NMSU and UTM/Florida once every few years.
Seems like a reasonable request.
No doubt, I agree.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:20 pm to TrueTigerTale
LSU has a losing record at home for day games.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:27 pm to 3down10
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LSU has a losing record at home for day games.
I'd be willing to bet, the record changes, it wouldn't matter to Burrow or Brady, they will go out and kick dat arse.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:28 pm to OldPete
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Nobody complained about us playing Tennessee when they were kicking our arse regularly from the mid-90's to the early 2000's (including 7 straight)...
That's actually not true, there just wasnt a twitter or a tigerdroppings back then to discuss.
permanent opponents opens itself up for extended scheduling imbalances, which specific teams benefit/are hurt by it isn't really relevant, the issue is that some teams will benefit/be hurt by it and that's bad for the league. Competitive balance is important.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Bama just wants something in their favor that nobody else gets. Bama actually wants the same thing everyone else (except UGA) gets.
If UGA can play noon games without crying about it, why can’t bama? Not like bama schedules any decent ooc games anyway. Bama doesn’t have a reasonable complaint because there’s a team that plays more noon games than them. If bama had the most, it would be reasonable. However, they don’t so it comes off as whining.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:35 pm to 3down10
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LSU has a losing record at home for day games.
wrong
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:40 pm to atlanta917
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If UGA can play noon games without crying about it, why can’t bama?
That's up to you, you are clearly fine with it.
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Not like bama schedules any decent ooc games anyway.
Oh look, another one who doesn't read.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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That's up to you, you are clearly fine with it.
There’s no way to know how UGA admin feels about it. The question was if bama had a reasonable complaint. Since UGA plays more noon games, they don’t. The only team that could reasonably complain about it would be UGA. Also, if bama scheduled better opponents like Notre Dame or Texas, I’d bet they’d have less noon games.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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That's actually not true, there just wasnt a twitter or a tigerdroppings back then to discuss.
There was nobody asking to stop playing Tennessee every year back then. Nobody was calling Finebaum and saying that it wasn't fair we had to play Tennessee.
That wasn't even a thing you thought about wanting pre-social media nonsense.
What kind of pvssy would hope to stop playing a rival you despise because they were beating you a lot?
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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That wasn't even a thing you thought about wanting pre-social media nonsense.
Completely wrong. It’s been an issue discussed since 1992 expansion which actually gave us TWO permanent opponents if you can believe that.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:46 pm to atlanta917
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There’s no way to know how UGA admin feels about it. The question was if bama had a reasonable complaint. Since UGA plays more noon games, they don’t.
UGA is free to make their own requests.
12 of the 14 teams in the league regularly play at least 1 September night game.
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Also, if bama scheduled better opponents like Notre Dame or Texas, I’d bet they’d have less noon games.
What if we scheduled San Jose St, Kent St, Northwestern St, Southeast Mizz St, Lamar, Georgia Southern, Tulane or UT Martin? Maybe that would work.
And again, as you've shown to have not read a thing in this thread and just started talking, nobody is complaining about "noon" games. We want to be in the same rotation 12/14 SEC teams are in with 1 night game every year or two against one of the crappy OOC teams.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Completely wrong. It’s been an issue discussed since 1992 expansion which actually gave us TWO permanent opponents if you can believe that.
I'm not quite sure what that has to do with running away from rivals not being a thing pre-social media.
Alabama and Tennessee fought and yelled and screamed and sued the shite out of eachother in the 90s and 2000s. But nobody ever talked about not wanting to play the other anymore.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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That's actually not true, there just wasnt a twitter or a tigerdroppings back then to discuss.
Well, I'll take your word for it, but with all the SEC fans at my workplace back then, it was rarely discussed. Even when Tennessee was whuppin' us, none of the Bama fans I knew wanted to change the schedule since playing Tennessee was tradition...albeit the tradition is better when both schools are competitive...
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permanent opponents opens itself up for extended scheduling imbalances, which specific teams benefit/are hurt by it isn't really relevant, the issue is that some teams will benefit/be hurt by it and that's bad for the league. Competitive balance is important.
I agree with you here...but it's going to be hard to do unless they can find a way to divide the divisions where the traditional rivalries are intact. Tradition is important and is a part of what makes college football great. I hated when Nebraska went to the Big 10; back in the 70's and 80's, the Nebraska-Oklahoma rivalry was must watch TV, even in SEC country.
I think it'd be better if we went to 9 conference games; it'd knock off one of the cupcakes on everyone's schedule and make for a better rotation and balance could be better addressed...not to mention it'd quiet most of the criticism of the other conferences that are already playing 9...
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:51 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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What if we scheduled San Jose St, Kent St, Northwestern St, Southeast Mizz St, Lamar, Georgia Southern, Tulane or UT Martin? Maybe that would work.
If bama also played a Notre Dame, Texas, or Clemson in there, then cupcakes are fine. However, bama doesn’t and hasn’t for a while. Saban complained about playing more noon games than other SEC teams. UGA plays more than bama, so it’s not a reasonable complaint. No one likes to hear the person who has it second worst complain when the person who has it worst isn’t crying about it.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:53 pm to atlanta917
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If bama also played a Notre Dame, Texas, or Clemson in there, then cupcakes are fine. However, bama doesn’t and hasn’t for a while.
Seriously? Florida State, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State, Southern Cal all since 2011. Miami, Southern Cal, Texas in the next 3 years.
Is that a while?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:54 pm to atlanta917
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UGA plays more than bama, so it’s not a reasonable complaint. No one likes to hear the person who has it second worst complain when the person who has it worst isn’t crying about it.
Nobody cares about what Georgia wants - that's up to Georgia. If you want to inquire about changing it, have at it. That's up to you.
Your administration doesn't seem to mind it. That's fine. You are welcome to that opinion. We do.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:55 pm to SummerOfGeorge
FSU was awful the year bama played them. Bama hasn’t played a decent ooc team in a few years. When is the last home and home they had with a decent ooc opponent?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:56 pm to atlanta917
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FSU was awful the year bama played them.
Notre Dame was coming off a 4-8 season the last time Georgia played them.
Southern Cal finished #3 in America - better than any OOC opponent you've played in how long?
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When is the last home and home they had with a decent ooc opponent?
Penn State 2010/2011 - then we played a whose who of blue bloods at neutral sites. And now we are starting home/homes again.
Don't move the goalposts on your "Bama never plays anyone OOC" argument to "I mean Bama never does H/H".
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 3:58 pm
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