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re: Wow. Guess it isn't up for debate....(2019 LSU vs 2020 Bama)

Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8647 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:49 pm to
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Yeah, I do. Alabama's defense was better in 2020 and Mac Jones was a better collegiate QB who was smarter and more efficient with the football than Tua was.


Well there's one I guess.

2020 Bama being considered the greatest playoff team ever is just laughable. Congrats on the bubble title. It's really impressive.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38608 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Alabama on the other hand played 11 of the best teams the SEC had to offer



Alabama posters did nothing but trash the incomplete teams they they lined up against.

“LSU can’t even filed a full team”
Kentucky’s starters are scared to play us”

You can not deny that you are now talking two different realities.

You have to pick one and stick with it
Posted by GaTiger27
Member since Feb 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:11 pm to
Nah, it’s not really up for debate.
I know it, you know it, everyone knows it.
It’s some idiot trying to rustle your jimmies.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
17621 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:13 pm to
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The Gumps are begging for their covid title to be recognized.


It already is very well recognized. Many have stated, both at the end of the 2020 season, and still currently to this day, that was the best team of all time. I'm sorry that upsets the LSU folks who need something to hang their hat on since their program has been trashed since 2019, but it is what it is. Alabama is the GOAT of GOATs.

Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
30667 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:14 pm to
Meh, very flawed rankings with the rest of them.

2 Georgia NC teams better than any Saban Bama team (other than the 2020 version?). Not buying that at all.

I don't think their 2021 edition was better than the Bama 2021 edition and Bama's team that year was not one of the better ones Saban coached.

Ohio State's 2014 winner was way better than last year's OSU team.

I like Indiana (mainly for a relative playing there and Cignetti) but they should not be in the top 20. Season's not even over yet.

Geez this guy has a LOT of recency bias.

Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
30667 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:15 pm to
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SEC Doctor



It doesn't help the case that only LSU fans are arguing this.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
14892 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:19 pm to
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It already is very well recognized. Many have stated, both at the end of the 2020 season, and still currently to this day, that was the best team of all time. I'm sorry that upsets the LSU folks who need something to hang their hat on since their program has been trashed since 2019, but it is what it is. Alabama is the GOAT of GOATs.


Gumps: "LSU can only cling to 2019. What a bunch of has beens."

Also Gumps: "Muh 2020 team was the real GOAT." (Which just so happens to be the last time they've won anything meaningful. )
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
37764 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Alabama posters did nothing but trash the incomplete teams they they lined up against.

“LSU can’t even filed a full team”
Kentucky’s starters are scared to play us”

You can not deny that you are now talking two different realities.

You have to pick one and stick with it


You say "Alabama posters" because you're just molding a straw man using whatever trolls and arguments you want.

Let me know when you want to discuss the actual topic rather than crying about how you got trolled.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
37764 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Gumps: "LSU can only cling to 2019. What a bunch of has beens."

Also Gumps: "Muh 2020 team was the real GOAT." (Which just so happens to be the last time they've won anything meaningful. )


1995 Nebraska is the GOAT. Stop making up shite.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69709 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:37 pm to
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Congrats on the bubble title. It's really impressive.



A title is a title. Everyone was playing by the same rules, dealing with the same issues, and had the same limitations. Alabama just did it better than everyone else that season.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76932 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:50 pm to
The average person just grows to hate more and more the complete bullshite that was perpetrated on the American people during the “pandemic” and will likewise equate 2020 with lies and corruption. The football season was a joke and will also be remembered that way or not at all. The only people who will care about that season will be Bama fans who have no problem with claiming a joke title.
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 1:51 pm
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8647 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:54 pm to
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A title is a title. Everyone was playing by the same rules, dealing with the same issues, and had the same limitations. Alabama just did it better than everyone else that season.


That's true. And nobody is debating that Alabama won the title in 2020.

The question, though, is whether that title is more impressive than other titles of the playoff era, or whether the team that won it was demonstrably better than all other playoff teams that had come before it.

What exactly was it that Alabama did in 2020 that was remarkably better than what LSU did in 2019?
Posted by Smokin Joe Dumas
Armchair QB
Member since Apr 2022
1826 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:03 pm to
Still up for debate. According to these articles

Sports Illustrated

Best of the past 25 years is Miami 2001, followed by LSU 2019 #2, and Alabama 2020 #3

College Football News

Alabama 2020 didn’t even make the list in this one, (although 2015 did) and LSU was #1

LINK

This one from FoxSports has LSU (2019) #5 since 2000 and Alabama (2020) #6

One article does not a consensus make


Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38608 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:46 pm to
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You say "Alabama posters" because you're just molding a straw man using whatever trolls and arguments you want.

This is you.....are you a straw man?
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Nobody is going to give a crap about this game by the end of the season. LSU is a nobody and Alabama has better things to move on too.

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I have no idea. I don't see where Alabama gains anything at this point by playing the game (LSU).


What a pussy way of just getting out of an argument.


Then you mention how OSU had only five games to play to not get hurt in 2020, while LSU rattled off 15 wins in a row.....does that counter your point? PLease address that.

Truth is, you said these things and you are such a dumbass for thinking I am creating a "straw man" by actually quoting alabama posters.
15% of your post history is melting over LSU. Please continue.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69709 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:46 pm to
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The question, though, is whether that title is more impressive than other titles of the playoff era, or whether the team that won it was demonstrably better than all other playoff teams that had come before it.



This is a subjective opinion that rival fans will always argue over. It's useless to even debate on a message board such as this. 2020 Alabama was definitely an all-timer. Whether or not they were the best of the Playoff Era is anyone's guess. I think they could have held their own against 2019 LSU but I can't say with any certainty that they were outright better than them.

At the end of the day both offenses were fun to watch.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
37764 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:52 pm to
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This is you.....are you a straw man?


Why don't you provide links so some context can be seen? Or to show that I even said them?

quote:


Then you mention how OSU had only five games to play to not get hurt in 2020, while LSU rattled off 15 wins in a row.....does that counter your point? PLease address that.


Yeah, what Alabama needed to make 2020 a better season were games against Georgia St and Northwestern St.

quote:


Truth is, you said these things and you are such a dumbass for thinking I am creating a "straw man" by actually quoting alabama posters.
15% of your post history is melting over LSU. Please continue.


I'm betting you didn't provide links for a reason.

Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38608 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
37764 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:09 pm to
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LINK
LINK
LINK
LINK


None of that matches your initial claims.

Are you saying people shouldn't have noticed the LSU was in the shitter? Or that because LSU was in the shitter, the season doesn't count? What does me saying you provide no value have to do with it?

What I remember is Coach O being a bitch and trying to cancel the game because he didn't want to face Alabama after talking shite the year before.





This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38608 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:17 pm to
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None of that matches your initial claims
imagin 3down10 saying that

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Are you saying people shouldn't have noticed the LSU was in the shitter? Or that because LSU was in the shitter, the season doesn't count? What does me saying you provide no value have to do with it?

My point was that you wanted links of people disparaging LSU....I found them....YOU were one of them. Your dumb as hell arse shouldn't disparage your own schedule if you want to claim it as the best ever (how many teams were .500 or worse? .

You asked for links then i gave them to you....then like a fat, democrat woman you just shifted the argument after being hit with your own links.


NICE STRAW MAN!


Dude, you are a liar. Plain and simple.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38608 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:17 pm to
^go ahead.......back pedal....



we are waiting.

I pulled up comments from THIS board, about alabama fans saying OSU being not worthy and you called that a straw man? :lol: :lol:


So then I provided comments from YOU. You said you wanted links so you could weasel your way out of it.....then you just LIED and said that they didn't match what I said. You are a liar.
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 3:20 pm
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