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re: Would you put Spurrier in the same class as Bryant, Neyland, Saban?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:58 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:58 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Spurrier the coach? Great...but not Elite or Legendary. There are very few in my mind who reach that "elite" status.....and very few "Legendary"
Saban, Meyer, Knute Rockney, Frank Leahy, Bowden, Joe Pa, Tom Osbourne (early 90's Nebraska man), Bryant.
Switzer, Tressel, Don James, Dennis Erickson in the next tier.
Spurrier would be in the tier below that for me
Saban, Meyer, Knute Rockney, Frank Leahy, Bowden, Joe Pa, Tom Osbourne (early 90's Nebraska man), Bryant.
Switzer, Tressel, Don James, Dennis Erickson in the next tier.
Spurrier would be in the tier below that for me
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:58 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Nope.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:59 pm to 5thTiger
Dennis Erickson doesn't belong in that list. He's an improve Larry Coker.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:00 pm to 5thTiger
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Saban, Meyer, Knute Rockney, Frank Leahy, Bowden, Joe Pa, Tom Osbourne (early 90's Nebraska man), Bryant.
No Neyland? Your list is shite.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:03 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:Disagree. The most impressive thing about Spurrier is his stint at USC honestly. No offense to USC(they will likely admit this) they were one of the worse major football programs of all time, and spurrier has taken them to 10 win seasons and top 10 rankings. Think about that
No. He practically reinvented the way the league played football and was mega-elite for wins and SEC titles for a decade, but he's not in the same class as the others. If he had stayed at UF 10 more years...maybe. Regardless though, he's a top 10 SEC coach of all time WITHOUT question.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:03 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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He's a Hall of Fame coach, no doubt, but come on.
Hell no......
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:06 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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No Neyland
He wasn't near the class of those legends. Most of his "championships" were shared or with 1 loss...when there were undefeated teams.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:07 pm to 5thTiger
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He wasn't near the class of those legends.
Ok, you're clearly retarded, goodbye.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:08 pm to Serraneaux
quote:Have yall forgotten who USC was? They won 3 bowl games in their entire history before Spurrier, he himself has won 5. They were a .500 program before Spurrier, he has won 11 games 3 times. His stint at USC is remarkable
His South Carolina tenure has hurt him big time.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:09 pm to lsupride87
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The most impressive thing about Spurrier is his stint at USC honestly. No offense to USC(they will likely admit this) they were one of the worse major football programs of all time, and spurrier has taken them to 10 win seasons and top 10 rankings. Think about that
And bear won a title with kentucky, what's your point?
Nobody is saying spurrier sucks, I was adamant that he's one of the 10 best ever in the history of the league. But he's not up with there with bear, saban, and others who have won multiple national titles.
Spurrier ran absolutely roughshod over the SEC in a league that was pretty weak compared to what it's been lately and only had 1 natty to show for it (in a rematch no less against a team they previously lost to).
All time great? Yes, without hesitation. Top 3 or 4? No.
eta: lol at downvotes because someone disagrees with my opinion
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:10 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Need at least 1 more national title to be in that class. He's certainly a top 5-10 SEC coach of all time though.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:12 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:I do not think he is top 3. I am only arguing against those who seem to hold USC against him. What he has done there is nothing short of a miracle
And bear won a title with kentucky, what's your point? Nobody is saying spurrier sucks, I was adamant that he's one of the 10 best ever in the history of the league. But he's not up with there with bear, saban, and others who have won multiple national titles. Spurrier ran absolutely roughshod over the SEC in a league that was pretty weak compared to what it's been lately and only had 1 natty to show for it (in a rematch no less against a team they previously lost to). All time great? Yes, without hesitation. Top 3 or 4? No.
That program was a steaming pile of crapPosted on 9/3/15 at 4:14 pm to lsupride87
He's 0-2 against Butch Jones, BUTCH JONES FOR frick'S SAKE
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:14 pm to lsupride87
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I am only arguing against those who seem to hold USC against him
I never claimed that.
At USC he's still racking up wins, whereas in retirement he'd just be sitting still. Of course it's not hurting him, records-wise.
However, if he had never came back after 2001 he would have almost Seinfeld-like status of leaving on a high note and the world wondering what could have been. I think the mystique about him has gone with age, but I don't think his legacy has been hurt.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:15 pm to Vols&Shaft83
No. He's closer to Johnny Majors both in personality and in his propensity to take on tough/rebuilding jobs and have them bear fruit. He's not even close to Neyland and Bryant (legendary tier) and I put Saban just a tier below them (modern dynasty tier?) for a few reasons and the only as much as I don't like the man Urban Meyer is the only one in the 'modern dynasty tier' with Saban.
Spurrier is a a damn good coach but he's still couple of rungs below, mainly because of what Saban and Meyer have managed to achieve.
Spurrier is a a damn good coach but he's still couple of rungs below, mainly because of what Saban and Meyer have managed to achieve.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:16 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:Yeh and Saban is 0-1 against Watson Brown
He's 0-2 against Butch Jones, BUTCH JONES FOR frick'S SAKE
And Saban was coaching LSU while Brown coached UAB
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:16 pm to lsupride87
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e yall forgotten who USC was? They won 3 bowl games in their entire history before Spurrier, he himself has won 5. They were a .500 program before Spurrier, he has won 11 games 3 times. His stint at USC is remarkable
It's been impressive, but you have to also remember there's been a huge population shift into the south over the last decade+. There's more talent in the Carolinas than ever, and the NC states are all basketball schools. Not to mention Atlanta talent nearby. So while really good, it's not as impressive as it would've been 20 years ago.
He's all-time SEC top 5-6, and low second tier/high third tier all-time.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:21 pm to lsupride87
I'd say he's top 5, maybe a little lower. He turned Florida in to a powerhouse, made South Carolina a very respectable program. I think he'll always be held up from the elite tier because of him only having 1 national championship but he's certainly in that next tier IMO. He's been one of the most iconic figures in the SEC for the past 30 years and will be missed when his time comes to hang it up.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:23 pm to Phat Phil
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ahead of Neyland? lulz
Did they use the forward pass when he coached?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:24 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Behind Bryant and Saban. Ahead of Neyland.
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