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Would Saban have been as successful had he stayed at lsu
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:06 am
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:06 am
Obviously he has had a great run with bama. (it hurt my fingers to type that but it's true)
Just curious and seeing if anyone had insight into what goes on behind the scenes and how it might play into success on the field.
Just curious and seeing if anyone had insight into what goes on behind the scenes and how it might play into success on the field.
This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 8:09 am
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:07 am to Beessnax
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Would Saban have been as successful had he stayed at lsu
No.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:09 am to MoarKilometers
Thanks, I fixed it.
Why not?
Why not?
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:09 am to Beessnax
If he evolved and improved as a coach the way he did post-NFL at Alabama then absolutely he would have
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:11 am to SummerOfGeorge
No, because REC would be turning him in left and right.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:11 am to Beessnax
I would say not as successful as he has been at Alabama. he would have had success, but the run would not have been as great for the following two reasons:
1. The NFL pull would have always been there and used against him in recruiting
2. LSU fans are not willing to suck the right and left nuts of football players and coaches as the Alabama fans
1. The NFL pull would have always been there and used against him in recruiting
2. LSU fans are not willing to suck the right and left nuts of football players and coaches as the Alabama fans
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:14 am to LC412000
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LSU fans are not willing to suck the right and left nuts of football players and coaches as the Alabama fans
Yea, the more rational nature of LSU fans would have been an issue for sure
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:09 am to Beessnax
Yes he would lock down the state on the recruits front.
But TD would not be as successful as it is now.
But TD would not be as successful as it is now.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:18 am to JCinBAMA
Very successful, just not this successful imo
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:29 am to tiger perry
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Very successful, just not this successful imo
I'm inclined to agree. Not an insult to LSU mind you. Its a fine program sitting in a talent rich area where the right coach can absolutely challenge for a national title.
Bama, however, is Bama. Along with USC, Michigan/Ohio State, and back in the day Notre Dame/Nebraska they have that national recognition that lets you go out and cheery pick recruits from all over the country.
I think Saban wins multiple national titles at LSU but not as many as he has now.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:31 am to LC412000
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LSU fans are not willing to suck the right and left nuts of football players and coaches as the Alabama fans
Yeah. Let someone come in here and talk about how LF never showed up in the biggest game he played every year, or talk about how slow your WRs are and that's part of the reason your passing game sucked, or about how the only program in the country dumb enough to let O be the HC is LSU and then watch how quickly fans rush in here to defend that with rational argument (won't be rational bc you can't deny any of it without being irrational).
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:34 am to tiger perry
Very successful, but not quite as successful, because Alabama is a blue blood who can find success even at the worst times. They won 10 games and an SEC title with Dubose, and 10 games with Mike and Fran. This all back in the 11 game season.
Saban would probably have won a couple titles at LSU, maybe 3 given the right circumstances.
Saban would probably have won a couple titles at LSU, maybe 3 given the right circumstances.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:35 am to Beessnax
I was busting balls on the grammar... my bad. I think he would have been very, very successful had he stayed on at lsu... just not quite as successful as his tenure at bama. My main rationale is the reason i chose to do a non revenue sport at bama in the late 90's... bama football is bama football. It carries some cultural weight from years i wasn't even alive for. Some may be more myth than truth, but it still exists. Lsu just doesn't have that intangible mystique, in my very gumpish opinion.
With that said, i would've loved saban vs urban as a yearly match up... with the possibility of a rematch in atlanta. Would've been football, and i could've enjoyed the excitement of continued mediocrity. I handled multi loss seasons much better than 1 loss seasons
With that said, i would've loved saban vs urban as a yearly match up... with the possibility of a rematch in atlanta. Would've been football, and i could've enjoyed the excitement of continued mediocrity. I handled multi loss seasons much better than 1 loss seasons
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:39 am to MoarKilometers
probably ... this has been asked and answered previously ... why again?
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:44 am to tiger perry
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Very successful, just not this successful imo
Agree
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:46 am to Beessnax
Maybe not winning 4 NCs in 7 years good but definitely LSU would be a damn strong force year in year out.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:46 am to Beessnax
Yes he would have been just as successful.
Bama doesn't have any more resources than LSU has
Bama doesn't have any more resources than LSU has
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:51 am to Draconian Sanctions
@ gumps downvoting the truthPosted on 3/5/17 at 9:52 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Yes he would have been just as successful.
Bama doesn't have any more resources than LSU has
You may be right. Bama has a stronger history, but there's no reason to think that makes a significant difference with today's recruits.
The thing is, what Saban has done at Alabama is utterly unprecedented in today's game. While I don't say he couldn't have done it at LSU because Alabama is so much better, I just can't assume he would have done the same thing anywhere else because nobody has ever had such a level of success in the era of parity.
Right now, with Alabama sitting on all these #1 classes, I think it's still irrational to believe Saban will win 4 out of 7 national championships again if he stays seven years longer.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:58 am to Crimson Legend
A few games here or there would have been different I'm sure, but there's no reason to believe it would have been signifigantly different.
The only argument you could really make is how his NFL experience impacted him from an X's and O's perspective (most notably switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4). But he had already won one title at LSU and was recruiting extremely well. The 2005 and 2006 teams were certainly NC talent caliber and obviously the 2007 team did win an NC. There's just no reason to believe he would have been any less successful.
The only argument you could really make is how his NFL experience impacted him from an X's and O's perspective (most notably switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4). But he had already won one title at LSU and was recruiting extremely well. The 2005 and 2006 teams were certainly NC talent caliber and obviously the 2007 team did win an NC. There's just no reason to believe he would have been any less successful.
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