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re: Would Oklahoma's O with Bama's D beat the Cleveland browns?

Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:26 pm to
In this thread, people are actually arguing that the difference between the top college teams and the worst NFL teams is negligible. It's hard to fathom that level of stupidity.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:40 pm to
For a little while. Then when the Browns stopped laughing it'd be over.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15378 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:50 pm to
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The vast majority of Bama and OU’s players aren’t ready to play in the NFL right now.
you can make the exact same case for all of the Browns players too
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14989 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:59 pm to
What a silly question. The Browns would wipe the floor with any combination of college players.
Posted by Oracle
Oklahoma
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:11 pm to
In 1963 a college all-star team beat Vince Lombardi and the then-current NFL champion Green Bay Packers 20-17. Facty
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:19 pm to
The Browns 2nd team would beat the shite out of a college allstar team.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

In this thread, people are actually arguing that the difference between the top college teams and the worst NFL teams is negligible. It's hard to fathom that level of stupidity.


Considering this site I'm surprised more haven't made thaf argument.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:29 pm to
It is so ridiculous.

Couple points that I'd like to make that people always seem to forget in these stupid scenarios.

The Chicago College All-Star games were College all-star teams. That's all the best players in all of college football and they still only won a few games and that was all in the era before the forward pass was invented.

Think about the seniors on your favorite college football team. Now think about where they were when they were freshmen on that team, assuming they were even starting or getting any playing time at all. Now imagine the best players in all of college football with another 3 4 5 6 or 7 years of pro experience with the best coaches, trainers, facilities and equipment in all of football.

Also, how many players on Alabama's team make it to the pros? Cuz last time I checked every player on the Browns roster is an NFL player.

It would be a fricking Slaughter. The best college football team ever could play the worst pro team ever and the Pro team would curb stomp them 98 times out of a hundred and merely beat the frick out of them the other two times
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 11:27 am
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:41 pm to
No
Posted by River_City_Tider
Javksonville
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:07 pm to
You ever hear of the steel curtain?
The Steeler beat the All Star team by 7 points one year.

All Start teams had only a couple of weeks together to prepare, under coaches they didn’t even know. The teams they played were world championship teams that had played together for years.

As for the NFL players being “part time”, by the seventies, that was long past.

A top college team can have NFL Calibre talent at every starting position. In an avg year, certain teams have ten or more future FIRST ROUND draft picks their roster. You can’t find and NFL team where that is the case.

Point being this whole attitude that the shitiest NFL team could pick the score even the greatest college teams is crap. It’s just not reality.

On a given day, the browns could lose against a quality college team. There is no doubt.

Some of you younger people scoff at anything that happened prior to the year 2000 and idealize current NFL players as God’s.

Hell, I still haven’t seen a better guard than Hannah and he hung it up almost 40 years ago. Same goes for Butkus.

In fact, historically speaking, due to rules changes, players today are pussies in comparison. I’d like to see today’s recievers cope with being mugged all the way down the field.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 7:39 am to
So much wrongness in this post. NFL athletic training was in it infancy at this time. The money wasn't there to invest in staff and equipment. athletic science has become a multi billion dollar industry since then.

Fast forward to now. Any one NFL team makes more money by far than any college team out there. Hell the salary cap for the players is nearly three times what any college team makes in a season.

The point is the pro players jobs are to live, eat, and breath football. To the point where even great college players will wash out if they don't adopt this mentality. That is why the draft is a crapshoot.

That wasn't the case in 75. They didn't have to money or the knowledge to invest in increasing athletic performance oh but boy they do now.

College on the other hand are still STUDENT athletes. They still have to go to class and live the college lifestyle for a scholarship while working out when they can. On Wednesday at 10:00 am when say Baker Mayfield is in his 3rd history class. Drew brees has already gotten in his first workout with performance doctors imput. Watched a couple hours of game film, and is suiting up for practice.

NFL is a completely different animal than it was in 75
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:20 am to
Hell no! What are u smoking ?
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:43 pm to
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You know why Alabama is good right? And you know you can't recruit players in the NFL right?

Posted by River_City_Tider
Javksonville
Member since Nov 2015
881 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 6:09 pm to
So is the college game. The Overage OL in college probably averaged 250.
Posted by LSUstephen17
Houston
Member since Aug 2010
13112 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 6:41 pm to
No jackass
Posted by Sooner1984
Boone's Farm, Texas
Member since Jan 2017
446 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 11:19 am to
No, but they would be national champions every year.

Wait, Alabama already is. Never mind.
Posted by boot
Member since Oct 2014
2875 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:00 pm to
Not quite sure how people still don’t understand this concept. Nearly every player on the Browns roster was a star in college.. benchwarmers and starters for the Browns were stars in college. Most of the players for Oklahoma and Alabama won’t even be drafted. Not to mention the age gap between the two. It would be slaughter.
Posted by DaWGfan01
PCB FL
Member since Dec 2017
1470 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:04 pm to
No, they would get BF'ef
Posted by roger79
Welcome Home, Scott
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:18 pm to
You are beyond stupid, and I’ve been watching football since the ‘70s.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:20 pm to
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The Chicago College All-Star games were College all-star teams. That's all the best players in all of college football and they still only won a few games and that was all in the era before the forward pass was invented.



Game results[edit]
All games played at Soldier Field in Chicago, except for the 1943 and 1944 games, which were played at Dyche Stadium in Evanston, Illinois.

Year Date Winning team Losing team Attendance Series
1934 August 31 College All-Stars 0 Chicago Bears 0 79,432 Tied 0–0–1
1935 August 29 Chicago Bears 5 College All-Stars 0 77,450 NFL 1–0–1
1936 September 2 College All-Stars 7 Detroit Lions 7 76,000 NFL 1–0–2
1937 September 1 College All-Stars[2] 6 Green Bay Packers 0 84,560 Tied 1–1–2
1938 August 31 College All-Stars[3] 28 Washington Redskins 16 74,250 Colleges 2–1–2
1939 August 30 New York Giants 9 College All-Stars 0 81,456 Tied 2–2–2
1940 August 29 Green Bay Packers 45 College All-Stars 28 84,567 NFL 3–2–2
1941 August 28 Chicago Bears 37 College All-Stars 13 98,203 NFL 4–2–2
1942 August 28 Chicago Bears 21 College All-Stars 0 101,103 NFL 5–2–2
1943 August 28 College All-Stars 27 Washington Redskins 7 48,437 NFL 5–3–2
1944 August 30 Chicago Bears 24 College All-Stars 21 49,246 NFL 6–3–2
1945 August 30 Green Bay Packers 19 College All-Stars 7 92,753 NFL 7–3–2
1946 August 23 College All-Stars 16 Los Angeles Rams 0 97,380 NFL 7–4–2
1947 August 23 College All-Stars 16 Chicago Bears 0 105,840 NFL 7–5–2
1948 August 22 Chicago Cardinals 28 College All-Stars 0 101,220 NFL 8–5–2
1949 August 22 Philadelphia Eagles 38 College All-Stars 0 93,780 NFL 9–5–2
1950 August 11 College All-Stars[4] 17 Philadelphia Eagles 7 88,885 NFL 9–6–2
1951 August 17 Cleveland Browns 33 College All-Stars 0 92,180 NFL 10–6–2
1952 August 15 Los Angeles Rams 10 College All-Stars 7 88,316 NFL 11–6–2
1953 August 14 Detroit Lions 24 College All-Stars 10 93,818 NFL 12–6–2
1954 August 13 Detroit Lions 31 College All-Stars 6 93,470 NFL 13–6–2
1955 August 12 College All-Stars[5] 30 Cleveland Browns 27 75,000 NFL 13–7–2
1956 August 10 Cleveland Browns 26 College All-Stars 0 75,000 NFL 14–7–2
1957 August 9 New York Giants 22 College All-Stars 12 75,000 NFL 15–7–2
1958 August 15 College All-Stars[6] 35 Detroit Lions 19 70,000 NFL 15–8–2
1959 August 14 Baltimore Colts 29 College All-Stars 0 70,000 NFL 16–8–2
1960 August 12 Baltimore Colts 32 College All-Stars 7 70,000 NFL 17–8–2
1961 August 4 Philadelphia Eagles[14] 28 College All-Stars 14 66,000 NFL 18–8–2
1962 August 3 Green Bay Packers[15] 42 College All-Stars 20 65,000 NFL 19–8–2
1963 August 2 College All-Stars[7] 20 Green Bay Packers 17 65,000 NFL 19–9–2
1964 August 7 Chicago Bears[16] 28 College All-Stars 17 65,000 NFL 20–9–2
1965 August 6 Cleveland Browns[17] 24 College All-Stars 16 68,000 NFL 21–9–2
1966 August 5 Green Bay Packers[18] 38 College All-Stars 0 72,000 NFL 22–9–2
1967 August 4 Green Bay Packers[19] 27 College All-Stars 0 70,934 NFL 23–9–2
1968 August 2 Green Bay Packers[20] 34 College All-Stars 17 69,917 NFL 24–9–2
1969 August 1 New York Jets[21] 26 College All-Stars 24 74,208 NFL 25–9–2
1970 July 31 Kansas City Chiefs[22] 24 College All-Stars 3 69,940 NFL 26–9–2
1971 July 30 Baltimore Colts[23] 24 College All-Stars 17 52,289 NFL 27–9–2
1972 July 28 Dallas Cowboys[24] 20 College All-Stars 7 54,162 NFL 28–9–2
1973 July 27 Miami Dolphins[25] 14 College All-Stars 3 54,103 NFL 29–9–2
1974 July 26 Canceled due to 1974 NFL strike
Game was originally scheduled between the Miami Dolphins and College All-Stars
1975 August 1 Pittsburgh Steelers[26] 21 College All-Stars 14 54,562 NFL 30–9–2
1976 July 23 1 Pittsburgh Steelers 24 College All-Stars 0 52,095 NFL 31–9–2
1 Game was called late with 1:22 left in 3rd quarter because of heavy rain.[10][11]
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